Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-21-09 WT Study (GOD'S WISDOM)

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    blondie

    PARDON THE PROBLEMS IN POSTING

    Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-21-09 WT Study (April 15, 2009, pages 15-19)(JEHOVAH'S WISDOM)

    Review comments will be in red

    WT material from today's WT will be in black

    Quotes from other sources will be in quotes boxes

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    g = Awake

    jv = Proclaimers book

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    JEHOVAH'S WISDOM OBSERVED IN CREATION

    "His invisible qualities are...perceived by the things made."--ROM. 1:20

    OPENING COMMENTS

    This is a boring repeat of many boring articles on the ant, rock badger, locust and gecko (not that gecko). Now the WTS references articles in other WT publications in regard to "researchers." Why not just quote from the original material?

    godly wisdom = only WTS wisdom from the pages of their publications, can wisdom be found in the Bible alone?

    START OF ARTICLE

    Q 1. What effect has worldly wisdom had on many today?

    THE word "wisdom" is used loosely. Some say that a person is wise if he has merely accumulated a wealth of knowledge. However, the world's so-called intellectuals offer no trustworthy guidance for finding true meaning in life. On the contrary, those who allow themselves to be influenced by such ones end up being "tossed about as by waves and carried hither and thither by every wind of teaching."--Eph. 4: 14.

    Who are "some say"?

    so-called intellectuals--only non-jws as in so-called Christians are all non-jws

    not intellectuals unless the WTS is quoting them in their publications allowing themselves to be influenced by such ones

    Q 2, 3. (a) Why is Jehovah "wise alone"? (b) How does godly wisdom differ from the wisdom of the world?

    2. How different it is with those who acquire true wisdom, the Source of which is Jehovah God! The Bible tells us that Jehovah is "wise alone." (Rom. 16:27) He knows all that there is to know about the universe, including its composition and its history. The physical laws of nature--upon which humans rely for their research--are all of Jehovah's making. Thus, he is not impressed by man-made inventions, and he is not intrigued by the so-called elevated thinking of human philosophy. "The wisdom of this world is foolishness with God."--1 Cor. 3:19.

    so-called elevated thinking of human philosophy--unless the humans are jws and writing their articles and giving their talks

    3. The Bible tells us that Jehovah "gives wisdom" to his servants. (Prov. 2:6) Unlike human philosophies, the wisdom that comes from God is not vague. Rather, it lays emphasis on sound judgment and is based on accurate knowledge and understanding. (Read James 3:17.) The apostle Paul marvelled at Jehovah’s wisdom. He wrote: "O the depth of God's riches and wisdom and knowledge! How unsearchable his judgments are and past tracing out his ways are!" (Rom. 11:33) Because Jehovah is all-wise, we are confident that his laws guide us in the best way of living. After all, Jehovah knows more than anyone else what we need in order to be happy. -Prov. 3:5, 6.

    his servants--only jws

    the wisdom from God is not vague? Flipflops in WTS doctrine: 1) first teaching 2) second teaching 3) back to first teaching

    Superior authorities

    Resurrection of people of Sodom and Gomorrah

    Scream when raped

    Transplants

    Jehovah...his laws...guide us...knows more than anyone else what we need to...be happy--only jws, particularly the governing body of jws

    Jesus-"A Master Worker"

    Q 4. What is one way in which we can discern Jehovah's wisdom?

    4. Jehovah's wisdom, along with his other matchless qualities, can be observed in the things he made. (Read Romans 1:20.) From the largest to the smallest, Jehovah's works reveal aspects of his personality. No matter where we look--to the heavens above or to the soil beneath our feet--we find abundant evidence of an all-wise and loving Creator. We can learn much about him by considering the things that he has made.--Ps. 19:1; Isa.40:26.

    abundant evidence?--PROOF? what comes next is proof? The given is that God made all these things.

    Q 5, 6. (a) Besides Jehovah, who was involved in creation? (b) What will we consider, and why?

    5. Jehovah was not alone when he "created the heavens and the earth." (Gen. 1:1) The Bible indicates that long before physical creation began, he created a spirit person by means of whom he formed "all other things." That spirit creature was God's only-begotten Son--"the firstborn of all creation"--who later lived on earth as the man Jesus. (Col. 1:15-17) Like Jehovah, Jesus possesses wisdom. In fact, in Proverbs chapter 8, he is represented as wisdom personified. That Bible chapter also refers to Jesus as God's "master worker."--Prov. 8:12, 22-31.

    Many statements without support.

    Do other religious connect Colossians and Proverbs?

    6. Thus, the physical creation reveals the wisdom both of Jehovah and of his Master Worker, Jesus. It contains valuable lessons for us. Let us consider four examples of created things that are described at Proverbs 30:24-28 as "instinctively wise." *

    *Young ones in particular may enjoy looking up the footnoted references that follow and then commenting on their research when this article is discussed at the congregation Watchtower study.

    A Lesson in Industriousness

    Q 7, 8. What facts about the ant fascinates you?

    7. When we examine their design and activities, even the things that can be called "the smallest of the earth" provide lessons for us. For example, consider the instinctive wisdom of the ant.--Read Proverbs 30:24,25.

    8. Some researchers believe that for every human there are at least 200,000 ants, all of them busily toiling on and under the earth's surface. Ants are organized into colonies, and in most colonies three types of ants can be found: queens, males, and workers. Each group contributes in its own way to caring for the colony's needs. One particular ant, the South American leaf-cutting ant, could be called a sophisticated gardener. This little insect fertilizes, transplants, and prunes its fungus gardens in ways that maximize yield. Researchers have found that this skillful "gardener" adjusts its efforts according to the amount of food that is needed by the colony. *

    So are we to compare the WTS organization to an ant colony?

    *For more information on the leaf-cutting ant, see the Awake! issues of March 22, 1997, page 31, and May 22, 2002, page 31.

    3/22/97--Welsh researcheRs--who, what, where?

    5/22/02--British scientists--who, what, where? "Independent" newspaper, what issue?

    9, 10. How can we imitate the ant's industriousness?

    9 We can learn from the ants. They teach us that diligent effort is needed if we wish to produce good fruitage. The Bible tells us: "Go to the ant, you lazy one; see its ways and become wise. Although it has no commander, officer or ruler, it prepares its food even in the summer it has gathered its food supplies even in the harvest." (Prov. 6:6-8) Both Jehovah and his Master Worker, Jesus, are industrious. "My Father has kept working until now," said Jesus, "and I keep working." --John 5:17.

    Does the WTS have no commander, officer or ruler? What about Jesus?

    diligent...produce..industrious--DO MORE

    QUOTE*** km 5/06 p. 2 Service Meeting Schedule ***

    Briefly interview an exemplary publisher who strives to keep his life simple and limits personal pursuits in order to do more to advance Kingdom interests and serve others. Highlight the blessings he receives from doing so.

    10. As imitators of God and of Christ, we too should be industrious. No matter what our assignment in God's organization, all of us should have "plenty to do in the work of the Lord." (1 Cor. 15:58) Therefore, we do well to follow Paul's admonition to the Christians in Rome: "Do not loiter at your business. Be aglow with the spirit. Slave for Jehovah." (Rom. 12:11) Our efforts in doing Jehovah's will are not in vain, for the Bible assures us: "God is not unrighteous so as to forget your work and the love you showed for his name." --Heb.6:10.

    industrious...plenty to do...do not loiter...slave--DO MORE

    Protection From Spiritual Harm

    Q 11. Describe some characteristics of the rock badger.

    11. The rock badger is another comparatively small creature that can teach us important lessons. (Read Proverbs 30:26.) It somewhat resembles a large rabbit but has short, rounded ears and short legs. This little animal lives in rocky areas. The keen eyesight of the rock badger serves it well, and the holes and crevices in its craggy habitat provide a safe retreat from predators. The rock badger is designed to prosper in a close-knit community, which provides protection and helps it to keep warm in winter:*

    close-knit community...protection--so do or did weeks go by before an elder did more than say "how are you" and scurry by before you could give an answer? I knew many elders who would do that...I would stop them and say "wait, brother, don't you want to hear my answer?" Some would just keep going and some would look embarrassed and come back as if they were being asked to drink poison.

    Or the book study conductor who could not remember the names of the children even though they had attended for 3 years....

    Or the elders that kept calling us to get the phone number or address of someone in the congregation for ten years, evidently too lazy to keep a list or look them up in the phone book (or infospace).

    *For more information on the rock badger, see the Awake! of September 8, 1990, pages 15.16.

    So who are these people, what are their credentials, what are their opinions on other creation issues, where are these quotes taken from?

    QUOTE*** g90 9/8 p. 16 Rock Badgers—Lovable and Instinctively Wise ***

    described by zoologist J. J. C. Sauer as being “unique in the animal kingdom.”

    “a mixture of everything,” according to scientist Gerrie de Graaff. “Their incisors resemble those of rodents, their molars those of rhinos, their vascular system that of whales and their feet those of elephants!”

    Dr. P. B. Fourie explains: “They normally lie with their heads away from one another, do not feed in close proximity to one another and utter a variety of appeasement calls when they are forced to move closely past one another.”

    Q 12, 13. What lessons can we learn from the rock badger?

    12. What can we learn from the rock badger? First, note that this animal does not leave itself vulnerable to attack. Rather, it takes advantage of its keen eyesight to see predators from afar, and it stays close to holes and crevices that can provide lifesaving shelter. Similarly, we need to have sharp spiritual vision so that we can perceive the dangers that lurk in Satan's world. The apostle Peter admonished Christians: "Keep your senses, be watchful. Your adversary, the Devil, walks about like a roaring lion, seeking to devour someone." (1 Pet. 5:8) When he was on earth,

    Jesus remained watchful, on guard against all attempts of Satan to break His integrity. (Matt. 4:1-11) Jesus set a good example for his followers!

    sharp spiritual vision--shall I bring up pedophiles? Yes.

    http://www.watchtowerdocuments.com/

    finally..."Jesus"..."his followers"

    13. One way we can be watchful is by taking advantage of the spiritual protection that Jehovah makes available to us. Study of God's Word and attendance at Christian meetings should not be neglected. (Luke 4:4; Heb. 10: 24, 25) Furthermore, just as the rock badger thrives in a close-knit community, we need to stay close to our fellow Christians so that we can enjoy "an interchange of encouragement, I with them. (Rom. 1:12) By availing ourselves of the protection Jehovah provides, we show that we agree with the psalmist David, who wrote: "Jehovah is my crag and my stronghold and the Provider of escape for me. My God is my rock. I shall take refuge in him." -Ps. 18:2.

    Christian meetings--only jw

    meetings SHOULD not be neglected--WTS says it is a breaking God's command not to attend their meetings.

    QUOTE*** w80 11/1 pp. 30-31 Questions From Readers ***

    Does the missing of Christian meetings in itself constitute an unforgivable sin, since, at Hebrews 10:24-29, the apostle Paul speaks of this sin right after discussing the importance of meetings?

    Failure to heed the command to attend Christian meetings is serious and could lead to disastrous consequences for a servant of Jehovah. However, more is involved in committing the unforgivable sin...Of course, when a person has “the custom” of not attending the meetings, he is working against his own spiritual interests and is in grave danger of growing weak in faith and becoming inactive in Christian works. This, in turn,could lead to a person’s actually denying or not taking seriously the ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ and his thus losing out on everlasting life.

    fellow Christians--only jws

    Persevering Despite Opposition

    Q 14. Although a single locust may not be impressive, what can be said of a locust swarm?

    14. We can also learn from the locust. A single locust, measuring only about five centimeters in length, may not inspire awe, but a swarm of locusts certainly does. (Read Proverbs 30:27.) Known for having a voracious appetite, a swarm of these relentless insects can quickly denude a yield ready for harvest. The Bible compares the sound of an approaching swarm of insects, including locusts, to the rumble of chariots and to the crackling of flames consuming stubble. (Joel 2:3, 5) Men have built fires in an effort to check the advance of a locust swarm, but these are usually ineffective. Why? The bodies of the locusts that are killed extinguish the flames, after which the rest of the swarm continues on unhindered. Even without a king or a leader, a locust swarm operates like a well-organized army, overcoming virtually any obstacle. *--Joel 2:25.

    bodies of dead locusts protect--so do the dead bodies of other jws protect the living jws in analogy?

    Are the jws without a king or a leader? Where's Jesus in this application?

    *For more information on the locust, see the Awake! of October 22, 1976, page 11.

    No sources mentioned, merely words from the WTS.

    Q 15. 16. How are modem-day Kingdom proclaimers like a locust swarm?

    15. The prophet Joel compared the activity of Jehovah's servants to the actions of locusts. He wrote: "Like powerful men they run. Like men of warthey go up a wall. And they go each one in his own ways, and they do not alter their paths. And one another they do not shove. As an able-bodied man in his course, they keep going; and should some fall even among the missiles, the others do not break off course."--Joel 2:7,8.

    Jehovah's servants--today only jws

    some fall--inactive jws?

    16. How well this prophecy describes modern-day proclaimers of God's Kingdom! No "wall" of opposition has been able to stop their preaching. Rather, they imitate Jesus, who persisted in doing God's will even though he was despised by many. (Isa. 53:3) True, some Christians have 'fallen among the missiles' by being put to death as martyrs for their faith. Still, the preaching work has continued, and the number of Kingdom proclaimers keeps growing. In fact, persecution has often served to spread the good news to people who would not otherwise have heard the Kingdom message. (Acts 8:1, 4) In your personal ministry, have you demonstrated perseverance like that of the locust--even in the face of indifference and opposition? --Heb.10:39.

    modern-day proclaimers of God's Kingdom--only jws none of those so-called Christians

    some Christians--only jws

    are the jws that remain truly proclaiming the kingdom or the WTS organization?

    "Cling to What Is Good"

    Q 17. Why do the feet of a gecko adhere to smooth surfaces?

    17. The tiny gecko lizard seems to defy gravity. (Read Proverbs 30:28.) In fact, scientists are awed by the ability of this little creature to scurry up walls and even across smooth ceilings without falling. How does the gecko do it? The secret is not in suction cups or in some type of glue. Instead, each of the gecko's toes has a pad with ridges that contain thousands of hair like protrusions. Each of these protrusions, in turn, has hundreds of filaments with saucer-shaped tips. The intermolecular force from all these filaments is enough to support more than the gecko's body weight--even when it is skittering upside down across a glass surface! Intrigued by the gecko's ability, researchers say that synthetic materials made to imitate the gecko's feet could be used as a powerful adhesive.*

    *For more information on the gecko, see the Awake! of April 2008, page 26.

    only a brief snippet from the Science News magazine, "from bandages that stay put when wet to a tape alternative to surgical sutures." No mention of date, page, or researcher.

    without falling--so are jws being told they will not fall?

    Q 18. How can we make sure that we always "cling to what is good"?

    18. What can we learn from the gecko? The Bible admonishes us: "Abhor what is wicked, cling to what is good." (Rom. 12:9) The unwholesome influences that are prevalent in Satan's world could cause us to lose our grip on godly principles. For instance, association with those who do not adhere to God's laws--whether at school or at work or through some form of ungodly entertainment--might affect our determination to do what is right. Do not let that happen to you! God's Word warns: "Do not become wise in your own eyes." (Prov. 3:7) Instead, follow the wise counsel that Moses gave to God's people in ancient times: "Jehovah your God you should fear. Him you should serve, and to him you should cling." (Deut. 10:20) By clinging to Jehovah, we will be imitating Jesus, of whom it was said: "You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness." --Heb.1:9.

    All non-jws are unwholesome influences--"association with those who do not adhere God's laws" after all, only jws are true Christians.

    So who were the Israelites associating with, other Israelites, when they made the golden calf, and who made the calf, Moses brother Aaron.

    So everyone at work or school are unwholesome influences prevalent in Satan's world.

    Lessons From Creation

    Q 19. (a) What qualities of Jehovah do you perceive in creation? (b) How can godly wisdom benefit us?

    19. As we have seen, Jehovah's qualities are clearly perceived in the things he made, and his creations also provide valuable lessons for us. The more we explore Jehovah's works, the more we marvel at his wisdom. Paying attention to godly wisdom will deepen our happiness now and safeguard us in times to come. (Eccl. 7:12) Yes, we will personally experience the truthfulness of the assurance found at Proverbs 3:13, 18, which states: "Happy is the man that has found Wisdom, and the man that gets discernment. It is a tree of life to those taking hold of it, and those keeping fast hold of it are to be called happy."

    GODLY WISDOM - ONLY WTS

    Do You Recall?

    - What practical lesson do we learn from:

    - the ant?

    - the rock badger?

    - the locust?

    - the gecko?

    Concluding Comments

    A very vague and thin article. Next week, "Appreciating the Greater Moses," a way of inserting OT events into the NT (followed by the Greater David...the adulterous murderer and the Greater Solomon...the many married apostate).

    Going to the fireworks coming up soon?

    Love, Blondie

  • mindmelda
    mindmelda

    Ah time for a feely good article so soothe all the recent browbeatings!

    If you hang in there and suffer enough of the doom and gloom, you occasionally get rewarded with the "pet the tiger" fantasy.

    Be sure to wear your Bethel approved outfits in your daydreams as you fantasize about the totalitarian hellho..I mean paradise that the WTS would make of the whole earth.

    Blondie, you're a gem. Your patience with this regurgitated drivel rivals the legendary patience of Job.

  • shopaholic
    shopaholic

    Clinging to the FDS\GB is compared to the toes of the gecko...seems appropriate to me.

    Thanks Blondie for the review!

  • moomanchu
    moomanchu

    What a study.

    Reminded me of Weekly Reader or Highlights.

  • YoursChelbie
    YoursChelbie

    "Satan's World" .... they make everybody outside of Watchtower bubble seem sooooo terrible.

    Yet, they don't mind using the laws in "Satan's World" to live tax free.

    Bethelites just get a pat on the back when they are too old or too sick to remain useful to the Borg.

  • lrkr
    lrkr

    What a weird article. Should be titled- Stuff that makes no sense together and doesn't prove anything.

    The keyboard is white, white is the color of Jesus garments, therefore Christians must obey. WTF!?!

  • booby
    booby

    Back in the day I never noticed how they use for reference material !Voila thier material. But this article is sooo obvious. They could have said, *For more information on the gecko, see the Awake! of April 2008, page 26 for more info on the gecko, do a Google search. But nooo couldn't go there could we.

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    Thanks Blondie!

    Well, they leave me with a lot of questions here:

    Para 1: 'so-called intellectuals offer no trustworthy guidance for finding true meaning in life. On the contrary, those who allow themselves to be influenced by such ones end up being "tossed about as by waves and carried hither and thither by every wind of teaching."'

    "So-called intellectuals"? Yeah, like those "celebrated WT scholars" who've been botching prophecy for over 100 years that the big A is coming in 1914, 1925, ..., 1975, generation from 1914,... 'soon', 'very soon'. Hither and thither on flip-flops of acceptable medical treatment. It's no wonder that so many dubs are on anti-depressants. When your idea of trustworthy guidance for the meaning of life comes from an error-prone, down-sizing printing company, you're gonna be getting serously seasick from the waves.

    Para 4: "we find abundant evidence of an all-wise and loving Creator"

    Indeed, I'd like to learn more about the dude that created Jehovah! Wait, who created Jehovah? Everything has a creator! Whoever the god-creator is, I bet he's in the Pleiades galaxy, and particularly hanging around the star Alcyone... or maybe in the Great Pyramid taking a nap.

    Para 8: Yeah, gotta love ants, fire ants are awesome! Don't you just extra-love Jehovah for creating them?

    fire ant stings DAMN!!! That's gotta hurt like an SOB!! Thanks God for teaching us about ants!

    Para 11 & 12 about the Rock Badger mentions: "a safe retreat from predators", "vulnerable to attack". So why did Jehovah create predators that would savagely kill these wonderful little animals? Did Jehovah get so incensed when the naked lady talked to the snake and ate the apple, that he said, "Hey, Word-Jesus-Michael, I'm so mad at Eve that I want you to reprogram some of the animals to stop eating grass and start eating rock badgers!!! Oh, and make it hurt when women have kids! That will show them all who's boss around here!"

    Para 14-16. So, Jehovah engineered the creation of locust plagues to teach dubs the importance of being willing to die in their kingdumb ministry for Watchtower corporation? Wow, that is so profound. I thought Jehovah created locust plagues to punish stone age tribes for making him angry. I would assume that before the naked lady talked to the snake in the paradise garden and ate the apple, locusts tended to trimming the thorns from the Edenic rose garden.

    Para 17 & 18 reminds us that like the gecko, we need to cling to our modern day provider of security... Geico insurance.

    Blondie, I love fireworks way more than this Botchtower lesson!

    B the X

  • yadda yadda 2
    yadda yadda 2

    What childish illustrations, all of them meant to increase adherence to the organisation get the JW's out working in FS more.

    Why didn't they use the illustration of worker drone bees.....that's basically what JW publishers are. Bzzzz....

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    Indeed....let's review the animal metaphors we have seen in the literature over the years....

    JW publishers = locusts

    Young women = cows in heat

    Worldlings = insect pests infesting a home

    Catholic priests = dumb dogs

    What else can be added to this illustrious list?

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