A former Bethelites SAD testimony at the convention

by AuntBee 17 Replies latest jw friends

  • startingovernow
    startingovernow

    Taking this topic in another direction, I find this line interesting: " The joy I have now is being able to serve with my wife."

    Well, if he was there 5 years and THEN got married, it probably has not "served" with his wife, except for a couple of hours in weekend service. Let's give them a few months of trying to work in the real world, preparing their own meals, and pioneering together, and see if he will still be feeling the joy:)

  • sir82
    sir82
    Weird, he didn't say why they left in the first place?

    Likely he was one of the 2000 or so "layoffs" that have taken place over the past 2.5 years or so in the US branch. Some of them got reassigned as "special pioneers", but the majority got little more than a pat on the back and all the 2nd-hand clothes they could carry.

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    " not to allow the world to lull us to sleep" yeah, nor allow you to eat, live in your own home, get adequate healthcare, nor afford a second car for when the first piece of crap car dies, nor live above a subsistance level. Their 'spiritual treadmill' is going nowhere but gives them some kind of fix like a hit on a crackpipe. Meanwhile, everyone in the audience is clapping and telling themselves, "I'm sure glad I didn't go to beth-hell and wind up with a crappy life like those losers!"

    AuntBee, did you happen to catch their first names?

    B the X

  • llbh
    llbh

    Jeeprube, not all window cleaners are impecunious or otiose, i am one, so i should know.

    I cringed when i read this assembly experience.

    David

  • AuntBee
    AuntBee

    B the X: Checked at that spot, and if they did say Brother Gonzalez's first name, i can't make it out.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    How can they put a positive spin on serving at Beth Hell for 12 years, and then getting tossed out with no training in the real world? The talk should have been "They used me for 12 years, deliberately preventing me from developing real-world skills, then heartlessly tossed me out so I could sink. Then they wanted me to find a p*** poor job so I wouldn't have any fun--and yet pio-sneer. And, they would rather have had me stay celibate so I could go into the Value Destroyer Training School (further draining my credit line, which does not even exist but they want me to create it out of fantasy), accept at my own expense a billion simultaneous assignments to build the religion up to Critical Mass, and then stand by and watch them plunge the whole world into the Second Dark Ages."

    While I would not recommend the Catholic monastery either, at least they do not heartlessly throw monks out after a lifetime of service. They intentionally make it difficult to be accepted as a monk (they intentionally make it easy to get into Beth Hell if you answer all the questions correctly), they give you three more chances to back out of being a permanent monk during the first year (probation--which does not exist at Beth Hell), and then once fully accepted, you are there for life unless you do a major breach of their rules (not if they feel like throwing you out or you develop a health problem). Seems the Catholic church, for all its flaws, takes better care of their own than the witlesses.

  • Gayle
    Gayle

    Since his intonation and presentation sounded depressed, hopefully it gave a few young people some second thoughts on Bethel and pioneering. Hopefully, some young people will choose college instead.

  • VM44
    VM44

    But with a lot of prayer, and …..help from Jehovah,

    I wonder what EXACTLY was this "help from Jehovah"

    How does he know the "help" came from Jehovah?

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