The reason I don't believe in Santa.

by ballistic 10 Replies latest jw friends

  • ballistic
    ballistic

    Just got emailed this, and have re-thought my belief in Santa.
    p.s. sorry about the spacing:

    > > There are approximately two billion children (persons under
    >>18) in the
    >> > > world.
    >> > > However, since Santa does not visit children of Muslim,
    >>Hindu, Jewish
    >>or
    >> > > Buddhist (except maybe in Japan) religions,
    >> > > this reduces the workload for Christmas night to 15% of the
    >>total, or
    >>378
    >> > > million (according to the population reference bureau).
    >> > > At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per household,
    >>that comes
    >>to
    >> > > 108 million homes, presuming there is at least one good child
    >>in each.
    >> > >
    >> > > Santa has about 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to
    >>the
    >> > > different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming
    >>east to
    >>west
    >> > > (which seems logical). This works out to 967.7 visits per
    >>second.
    >> > > This is to say that for each Christian household with a good
    >>child,
    >>Santa
    >> > > has around 1/1000th of a second to park the sleigh,
    >> > > hop out, jump down the chimney, fill the stocking, distribute
    >>the
    >> > > remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have
    >>been left
    >>for
    >> > > him,
    >> > > get back up the chimney, jump into the sleigh and get onto
    >>the next
    >>house.
    >> > >
    >> > > Assuming that each of these 108 million stops is evenly
    >>distributed
    >>around
    >> > > the earth (which, of course, we know to be false, but will
    >>accept for
    >> > > these calculations),
    >> > > we are now talking about 0.78 miles per household; a total
    >>trip of 75.5
    >> > > million miles, not counting bathroom stops or breaks.
    >> > >
    >> > > This means Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per
    >>second--3,000
    >>times
    >> > > the speed of sound.
    >> > > For purposes of comparison, the fastest man made vehicle, the
    >>Ulysses
    >> > > space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second,
    >> > > and a conventional reindeer can run (at best) 15 miles per
    >>hour.
    >> > > The payload of the sleigh adds another interesting element.
    >> > >
    >> > > Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium
    >>sized LEGO set
    >> > > (two pounds), the sleigh is carrying over 500 thousands tons,
    >>not
    >>counting
    >> > > Santa.
    >> > > On land, a conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300
    >>pounds.
    >> > >
    >> > > Even granting that the "flying" reindeer can pull 10 times
    >>the normal
    >> > > amount, the job can't be done with 8 or even 9 of them -
    >>Santa would
    >>need
    >> > > 360,000 of them.
    >> > > This increases the payload, not counting the weight of the
    >>sleigh,
    >>another
    >> > > 54,000 tons, or roughly seven times the weight of the Queen
    >>Elizabeth
    >> > > (the ship, not the monarch). 600,000 tons travelling at 650
    >>miles per
    >> > > second creates enormous air resistance -
    >> > > this would heat up the reindeer in the same fashion as a
    >>spacecraft
    >> > > re-entering the earth's atmosphere.
    >> > >
    >> > > The lead pair of reindeer would adsorb 14.3 quintillion
    >>joules of
    >>energy
    >> > > per second each.
    >> > > In short, they would burst into flames almost
    >>instantaneously, exposing
    >> > > the reindeer behind them and creating deafening sonic booms
    >>in their
    >>wake.
    >> > >
    >> > > The entire reindeer team would be vaporized within 4.26
    >>thousandths of
    >>a
    >> > > second, or right about the time Santa reached the fifth house
    >>on his
    >>trip.
    >> > >
    >> > > Not that it matters, however, since Santa, as a result of
    >>accelerating
    >> > > from a dead stop to 650 m.p.s. in .001 seconds,
    >> > > would be subjected to acceleration forces of 17,000 g. A 250
    >>pound
    >>Santa
    >> > > (which seems ludicrously slim)
    >> > > would be pinned to the back of the sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds
    >>of force,
    >> > > instantly crushing his bones and organs and reducing him to a
    >>quivering
    >> > > blob of pink goo.
    >> > >
    >> > > Therefore, if Santa did exist, he's dead now.
    >> > >
    >> > > Merry Christmas.
    >>

  • individuals wife
    individuals wife

    Spoilsport

  • ChuckD
    ChuckD

    Even with all this, the evidence in support of Santa is STILL greater than that in support of God!

  • WildHorses
    WildHorses

    Don't tell me there isn't a Santa Claus, I saw him at my job last night. He even said he was Santa. Only thing I saw that didn't resemble Santa is that he has red hair. Other than that he looked just like him. Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig belly that shook like a bowl full of jelly when he laughed. He has a beard too. So, don't tell me there isn't a Santa, cause I saw him with my own two eyes QQ


    "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent"

    Eleanor Roosevelt

  • anewperson
    anewperson

    Of course your statistics also need to add in the parents, substitute Santas and elves who help him. The second paragraph into the following tells who the real Santa or Saint Nicholas was. Why not share copies with others so that they and their loved ones are not falsely deprived of their Christian joy:

    CHRISTMAS TREES, SANTA, THE STAR ETC -- THE REAL TRUTH: More recent scholarly studies prove that the Christmas Tree is from the Tree of Eternal Life (Ge 2:9, 3:22) depicted in church plays of the Middle Ages, not Luther or Druid tree-worshippers, although outdated articles for example in World Book Encyclopedia still repeat the legends and Luther may have originated the use of candles attached to Christmas trees.

    The giant cedars of Lebanon used to build the temple at Jerusalem themselves had bright green needles with tan-colored cones, and John 10:22-3 says Christ visited the successor temple during the Jewish "Festival of Dedication," namely Channukah, during winter. Also called the Festival of Lights, it had singing, the carrying of tree branches, homes filled with lights and joy. Celebrated 8 days each time, its date varies yearly but the first Channukah was December 25, making it an even more likely source for the December 25 celebration than Rome's Saturnalia which came later in the month. Some believe Christ was actually born about Oct 1, which would mean Mary conceived 9 months previously, that is about or on December 25. Indeed count 9 months backwards from October to see for yourself. As to Santa Claus, no, he did not come from a vaguely known Asian god who descended chimneys to bring gifts or Siberian wizards but instead the Christian Nicholaus in Turkey in the Middle Ages who had white hair, red robes and each Dec 6 night anonymously shoved gift pouches with gold through windows of homes with poor daughters so that they would not be sold into slavery and prostitution because too poor to pay a marriage dowery.

    In fact Christ himself was wrongly attacked as a "glutton and drunkard" simply for believing in a good time (Mt 11:19). He once turned water to wine at a wedding party in Cana (Jn 2:1-11), told followers to invite needy persons to parties (Lu 14:13-14), and accepted gifts including expensive nard oil. As with Nicholas later, Revelation 1:14 even describes the resurrected Christ's hair as like "white wool" or "snow," his cloak red or scarlet-colored (red with a bluish tinge--Mt 27:28), and white symbolizes purity. True, all that just coincidentally reminds one of Santa Claus, but do note that the earliest Christians enjoyed balanced merriment at "love feasts" (Jude 12), the angels celebrated Christ's birth (Lu 2), and Job's children had enjoyed birthdays (Job 1:3, 3:1, 3).

    Most Christmas trees are topped by a star remindful of the Christ star. According to John Mosley's The Christmas Star (1985) from September 3 BC to June 2 BC Jupiter, known as "the royal planet" passed Regulus "the king star" in the constellation Leo, reversed then passed again, turned and passed a 3rd time. By June 17 Jupiter and Regulus were so close they seemed a single star when seen by the eye. This then is one intriguing possible source for the Christ star in the Bible.

    Before Christ's birth unspecified men called "magi" in Biblical Greek came from the East first to Jerusalem (Mt 2:1-2) then went on to find the Christ child in Bethlehem. Some translations render the word magi as astrologers because its root like the word "magician" is linked to the idea of being a person of great might but although magi may refer to people who try to predict the future by observing the stars, using omens and consulting spirit beings as forbidden by God at Deuteronomy 18:10-12, it can also refer to people who worked to predict future weather patterns, good times to plant and harvest, buy and sell crops, etc via careful observation of the clouds, stars and other natural phenomena and with very little to absolutely no special focus on the occult at all. So for solid reasons some Bible translations continue to translate magi as simply "wise men" or "stargazers" and this is also supported by the Bible’s positively saying they brought gifts for Christ then also protected him by leaving without telling his location to King Herod who wickedly desired to slay him. The oldest traditions of oral and written nature have called the wise men "kings," and Mesopotamia (Chaldea/Babylonia) did have sub-kings ruling city-states, often with the best education then possible.

    Those who kept their families from celebrating Christmas should not be condemned if they acted out of lack of accurate knowledge in the past but also no one should claim that those who do celebrate the birth of Christ are out of harmony with the Bible even as the preceding information proves. Please read and meditate on what Paul writes at Colossians 2:16.... The writers are part of a nonprofit mostly house-and-computer-based fellowship of Free Christians with independent but cooperative Bible Groups, which directly emails the Free Christians Newsletter to many ex-JWs and Friends regardless of current belief systems. For a free subscription contact [email protected] today.

  • Princess
    Princess

    Of course there is a Santa. My kids and I talked to him at the top of Seattle's Space Needle on Friday. Mrs Claus was there too. As soon as the picture is ready I'll prove it.

    I think he is just really fast.

    Princess

  • COMF
    COMF

    Hey, ballistic, get this freebie program to get rid of all that >>>> junk in your email.

    - http://ronbrandon.com/lukeminnie/email_cleaner.htm

    I've been using it for a couple of years. Nice utility to have when you want to forward a joke but the formatting's all screwed up.

    COMF

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    Ballistic,

    Mr B you are really losing it with this thread. Santa has over 5,000,000 assistants each with their own sleigh and set of reindeer.

    I know, because I am one.

    Englishman.

    Bring on the dancing girls!

  • D wiltshire
    D wiltshire

    I think we must keep in mind that Santa lives in a different time continuum.
    And so you would have to adjust your figures.

    Santa Lives!!!!

    If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
  • ballistic
    ballistic

    COMF - I'm really impressed with that cleaner program, it really works well!

    Englishman - I always had my suspicions about you!!!

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