by cameo-d 70 Replies latest watchtower bible
oh sure Spike.
Put an end to it. You are really sounding stupid now. How many hours per month did you need to put in?
I guess you did not realize an application for this has to go through the cong.
You are just being stupid now.
Is it also true that after you were disfellowshipped they had you give your assigned talk anyway- because they could not find someone else to give it?
I was doing 70 hours in a 50 zone, as a Regular Auxiliary Pioneer. All of a sudden, I was "delisted as a publisher" or "no longer sponsored as a publisher". I had the option of appealing to another congregation that time, but I found no takers.
After a while, I was put with a Regular Pioneer in what was then the new "Pioneer Assist Others" program. During this PAO phase, I was allowed to put in service reports, but had to do (virtually) all of my time with a brother. That only lasted like 6 months. I was again "no longer a publisher".
Some years went by, and another JC was formed. It was at this later time that it was announced "[Spike Tassel] is NOT one of Jehovah's Witnesses". Perhaps it was just a mistake. Perhaps the announcement really SHOULD have been that "[Spike Tassel] is NO LONGER one of Jehovah's Witnesses". But, that doesn't fit with the way the JC seemed to finish up. In any case, with no written record in my possession, I only have my memory versus the memory of any of the others, faulty as any/all of them are, since all in attendance that I saw were imperfect. This, despite the fact that it is always said from the platform that any serious matter, where there is a possiblility for misunderstanding, should be put down in writing, and validated by all parties concerned.
Spikes story:
I was doing 70 hours in a 50 zone, as a Regular Auxiliary Pioneer. All of a sudden, I was "delisted as a publisher" or "no longer sponsored as a publisher". I had the option of appealing to another congregation that time, but I found no takers.
My reply:
You do not appeal to another cong, nor do you choose the appeal committee. You appeal in writing to your own JC and the appeal committe is chosen for you. There is no issue of not finding any takers.
Spikes fable: After a while, I was put with a Regular Pioneer in what was then the new "Pioneer Assist Others" program. During this PAO phase, I was allowed to put in service reports, but had to do (virtually) all of my time with a brother. That only lasted like 6 months. I was again "no longer a publisher".
My reply: You stated you had no takers for your appeal. Therefore, according to your own story, you were not a publisher..thus no service reports would be accepted from you. You also stated you are treated as a dfed person. Dfed individuals are not allowed to go in service.....
More fable:
Some years went by, and another JC was formed. It was at this later time that it was announced "[Spike Tassel] is NOT one of Jehovah's Witnesses". Perhaps it was just a mistake. Perhaps the announcement really SHOULD have been that "[Spike Tassel] is NO LONGER one of Jehovah's Witnesses". But, that doesn't fit with the way the JC seemed to finish up. In any case, with no written record in my possession, I only have my memory versus the memory of any of the others, faulty as any/all of them are, since all in attendance that I saw were imperfect. This, despite the fact that it is always said from the platform that any serious matter, where there is a possiblility for misunderstanding, should be put down in writing, and validated by all parties concerned.
My reply: I think you need your medication again. You are going delusional here.
There are 5 distinct phases here, Isaac:
1) Regular Auxiliary Pioneer (1992-1997 intermittently),
2) no longer a publisher (1997-1999),
3) publisher (1999-2000),
4) no longer a publisher (2000-2005),
5) NOT one of Jehovah's Witnesses (2005 - further notice).
worship of Jehovah is sacred, and all who disagree will be opposed by Jehovah and those on His side of the Issue of Universal Sovereignty. He is not one to be mocked, and neither am I.......Spike
Spike..If you don`t like being laughed at,quit acting like a JackAss..
No one believes you were ever a Jehovah`s Witness..
You have no clue how Watchtower World Works and you can`t speak the WBT$ Language..
There are no Sponsored Publishers..There is no such thing..
You can`t complain to another congregation about the congregation you are in..
You were never given that option,thats not how things work..
Another obvious lie..
.......................OUTLAW
Things were never written down. For such a serious matter they must be, going forward.
Spike..Nobody cares what you want in Watchtower World..
You do as you are told,or leave..
...............OUTLAW
The counsel in private doesn't match the counsel from the platform, with respect to serious matters being put in writing.
If you were god, how would you make the angels grovel?
What would they have to do to make restitution?
Do you believe this can be done?
Below are excerpts from two sites that deal with Christian Universalism and it's take on the Biblical and other religious sources-non christian on Universal Salvation which includes wayward Angels.
http://www.christian-universalism.com/
people [and angels] do "reap what they sow" (Gal. 6:7). But Jesus Christ will "draw all people" to himself (Jn. 12:32) until "in Christ all will be made alive" (1 Cor. 15:22). That's because "God is love" (1 Jn. 4:8), so God would never abandon anyone to eternal punishment. God has a plan to rescue and transform even those who turned away from truth and goodness in this mortal life. Our Heavenly Father will find every lost sheep and forgive every prodigal son!
http://www.christianuniversalist.org/faq.html
All of these points below are relevant to the questions from the author of this thread:
You may be dealing w someone who has aspergers or something like that. If he was in association w the jws, he didn't follow wt rules, and so, was eventually turffed out.
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