at what age are muslin girls required to wear the full dress?

by palmtree67 10 Replies latest jw friends

  • palmtree67
    palmtree67

    Purps asked the question, at what age are the girls required to wear the full dress.

    I recently read an awesome book called "Nine Parts of Desire - The Hidden World of Islamic Women." by Geraldine Brooks.

    It gives a great history of Islam's start and the whole "chador

    " thing. She actually learned Arabic in order to read and understand the Koran.

    She also shows how, in recent years, many young women have adopted the chador as a political statement. As one is quoted, "Now, men have to deal with my mind, and not my body."

    One of the things she found out,

    "Use almost any word in Arabic, and a host of uninvited meanings barge into the conversation. I learned that one of the words for woman, HORMAH, comes from the same root as the words for both "holy, sacred" and "sinful, forbidden." The word for mother, UMM, is the root of the words for "source, nation, principle, mercy, harvest, stupid, illiterate, parasite, weak of character, without opinion." In the beginning was the word, and the word, in Arabic, was magnificently ambiguous."

    So, women are treated according to how each man wants to interpret what he reads in the Koran.

    Her conclusion?

    "The urgent and relevant task is to examine the way the faith has proved such fertile ground for almost every anti-woman custom it encountered on its great march out of Arabia. When it found veils and seclusion in Persia, it absorbed them; when it found genital mutilations in Egypt, it absorbed them; when it found societies in which women had never had a voice in public affairs, its own traditions of lively women's participation withered."

    I found the book to be an interesting commentary on how a religion changes over time. Remind anyone else of another religion.....????

    Highly recommended reading,

  • oompa
    oompa

    thanks palm.....i just find it randy that an already self admitted hot chick uses the the term "hot...chick" in her subject line!!!!!........lmao.....

    that pic was just sick btw.......now post your pic dammit!!..........oompaa

  • palmtree67
    palmtree67

    What??

    No one likes my choice of reading material? I swear it was a great book!

    Thanks, Ooompa! You're my favourite...ummm......ooompa! I loves ya!!

    Palmtree

    (of the UN-veiled palms.....)

  • doofdaddy
    doofdaddy

    There are similar sentiments here in Ausralia, young Muslim women wearing the full outfit as a feminist statement.

    But sadly, it's usually the men who make public statements to the press and of course the press run with the outragous.

    One old guy said that women not covered completely in public are meat which will attract cats....Which means they deserved to be raped. Didn't go down too well. It's hard to work out where Muslims (of any persuasion) stand on basic human rights....

  • palmtree67
    palmtree67

    I live in an area where there's alot of Muslims. The women have to wear the scarves all the time. I also work in a Dr's office, and I've noticed that we've had alot of patients (20-25 year old Muslim women) who need to be treated for alopecia. (Hair loss.)

    It just proves to me that we weren't meant to be veiled all the time. Heads need sunshine or else you go bald. Men who wear baseball caps all the time have the same problem.

    Oh dear, I think I just hi-jacked my own thread!

  • kurtbethel
    kurtbethel

    She also shows how, in recent years, many young women have adopted the chador as a political statement. As one is quoted, "Now, men have to deal with my mind, and not my body."

    So...I would be dealing with a mind that is locked in the ninth century? No thanks.

  • White Dove
    White Dove

    That statement seems like a way for women to deal with the forced clothing law.

  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

    That statement seems like a way for women to deal with the forced clothing law.

    That might make sense, except for the fact that many of these women do not live in lands that require chador. To fully understand the concept, one must realize the intelligence is considered incredibly sexy. It is a great complement for a man or woman to say he other person is intelligent. They view it as a political statement, often times, against Western culture, which emphasizes T&A.

    Islam is the only religion I know of that has a history of very powerful and influential female religious scholars. It seems to me that Islam started its decline when it started marginalizing its women.

    http://www.islamfortoday.com/womenscholars.htm

  • palmtree67
    palmtree67

    Bumping this because of the FGM thread.

  • yknot
    yknot
    "Now, men have to deal with my mind, and not my body."

    Oh please..... hide what you want but a man will just erotise something else about her!

    The swish of her burqa, the placement of her feet (if he can see them), her eyes through the veil, her voice, perfume or simply knowing she has breasts and a vagina awaiting his discovery underneath the cloth........ he is a guy, it is what guys do.

    Economic empowerment......... is far more effective in making 'men' deal with feminine POVs.

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