1995 Generation change - Awake! Masthead change

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  • SuspiciousMinds
    SuspiciousMinds

    This is regarding the change in the wording of the Awake! masthead regarding "the Creator's promise" to restore paradise. I believe the change happened between the Octbober 22 and November 8 issues. First of all, if anyone has a hard copy of the Awake! before and after this change (preferrably within a few months of the actual change), I would be very interested in purchasing these from you. Of course, I will send you Paypal for the shipping costs and your time. As I am not DF or DA yet, I would prefer to deal with a well known member so as not to compromise my identity.

    If I am not able to acquire the issues, my other option is to acquire the 1995 Awake! bound volume. Does anyone know if the wording in the bound volume remained true to its original print, or did they edit each issue to remove the 1914 bit altogether?

    Thanks in advance for your help!

    SM

  • Girlie
    Girlie

    Well I be darned. You learn something new every day. I am thumbing through my 95' Awake bound volume and I have noticed that the masthead did change. From the Nov. 8th issue onward, they did away with the part that says "before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away".

    I believe that during that time, new "light" was shed on the understanding of that "generation". More likely the reason they changed the wording.

  • Girlie
    Girlie

    Here is some information that will explain why the 1914 generation was dropped from the Awake masthead. This is from the Watchtower article, "Questions From Our Readers" dated June 1, 1997, pg. 28:

    Questions From Our Readers

    “The Watchtower" of November 1, 1995, focused on what Jesus said about "this generation" as we read Matthew 24:34. Does this mean that there is some question about whether God's kingdom was set up in heaven in 1914?

    That discussion in TheWatchtower offered no change at all in our fundamental teaching about 1914. Jesus set out the sign to mark his presence in Kingdom power. We have ample evidence that this sign has been in course of fulfillment since 1914. The facts about wars, famines, plagues, earthquakes, and other evidences bear out that since 1914, Jesus has been active as King of God’s Kingdom. This indicates that since then we have been in the conclusion of the system of things.

    What, then, was TheWatchtower clarifying? Well, the key was the sense in which Jesus used the word “generation” at Matthew 24:34. That passage reads: “Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.” What did Jesus mean by “generation,” both in his day and in ours?

    Many scriptures confirm that Jesus did not use “generation” with regard to some small or distinct group, meaning only the Jewish leaders or only his loyal disciples. Rather, he used “generation” in condemning the masses of Jews who rejected him. Happily, though, individuals could do what the apostle Peter urged on the day of Pentecost, repent and “get saved from this crooked generation.”—Acts 2:40.

    In that statement, Peter was clearly not being precise as to any fixed age or length of time, nor was he tying the “generation” to any certain date. He did not say that people should get saved from the generation that was born in the same year Jesus was or the generation that was born in 29 C.E. Peter was speaking about the unbelieving Jews of that period—some perhaps being rather young, others being older—who had been exposed to Jesus’ teaching, had seen or heard of his miracles, and had not accepted him as Messiah.

    That evidently is how Peter understood Jesus’ use of “generation” when he and three other apostles were with Jesus on the Mount of Olives. According to Jesus’ prophetic statement, Jews of that period—basically, Jesus’ contemporaries—were going to experience or hear of wars, earthquakes, famines, and other evidences that the end of the Jewish system was near. In fact, that generation did not pass before the end came in 70 C.E.—Matthew 24:3-14, 34.

    It must be acknowledged that we have not always taken Jesus’ words in that sense. There is a tendency for imperfect humans to want to be specific about the date when the end will come. Recall that even the apostles sought more specifics, asking: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel atthistime?”—Acts 1:6.

    With similar sincere intentions, God’s servants in modern times have tried to derive from what Jesus said about “generation” some clear time element calculated from 1914. For instance, one line of reasoning has been that a generation can be 70 or 80 years, made up of people old enough to grasp the significance of the first world war and other developments; thus we can calculate more or less how near the end is.

    However well-meaning such thinking was, did it comply with the advice Jesus went on to give? Jesus said: “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. . . . Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.”—Matthew 24:36-42.

    So the recent information in TheWatchtower about “this generation” did not change our understanding of what occurred in 1914. But it did give us a clearer grasp of Jesus’ use of the term “generation,” helping us to see that his usage was no basis for calculating—counting from 1914—how close to the end we are."

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    So, it (the generation) ended in nov 95. Does anyone know when they started w that masthead? Must have been there for decades.

    S

  • cabasilas
    cabasilas

    I believe the masthead started in the early 80s.

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    You don't need them.

    All you have to do is tell them what those banners say, then challenge them to prove you are a liar.

    It is up to them to prove you wrong.

    These scans are from the bound volume.

    Cheers

    Chris

  • Girlie
    Girlie

    Edited: Lord, it doesn't end. Now here is another "new light" on this generation. This is taken from the Feb. 15, 2008 Watchtower, pp 23-24, paragraphs 10 -15. No wonder I decided to fade:

    The Generation Seeing the Sign

    10 Previously, this journal has explained that in the first century, “this generation” mentioned at Matthew 24:34 meant “the contemporaneous generation of unbelieving Jews.” That explanation seemed reasonable because all other recorded uses that Jesus made of the term “generation” had a negative connotation, and in most cases, Jesus used a negative adjective, such as “wicked,” to describe the generation. (Matt. 12:39; 17:17; Mark 8:38) Thus, it was felt that in the modern-day fulfillment, Jesus was referring to the wicked “generation” of unbelievers who would see both the features that would characterize “the conclusion of the system of things” (syn·te′lei·a) and the system’s end (te′los).

    11 It is true that when Jesus used the word “generation” negatively, he was speaking to or about the wicked people of his day. But was that necessarily true of his statement recorded at Matthew 24:34? Recall that four of Jesus’ disciples had approached him “privately.” (Matt. 24:3) Since Jesus did not use negative qualifiers when speaking to them about “this generation,” the apostles would no doubt have understood that they and their fellow disciples were to be part of the “generation” that would not pass away “until all these things [would] occur.”

    12 On what basis may we draw that conclusion? By carefully considering the context. As recorded at Matthew 24:32, 33, Jesus said: “Now learn from the fig tree as an illustration this point: Just as soon as its young branch grows tender and it puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. Likewise also you, when you see allthesethings, know that he is near at the doors.” (Compare Mark 13:28-30; Luke 21:30-32.) Then, at Matthew 24:34, we read: “Truly I say to you that thisgeneration will by no means pass away until allthesethings occur.”

    13 Jesus said that it was his disciples, soon to be anointed with holy spirit, who should be able to draw certain conclusions when they saw “all these things” occur. So Jesus must have been referring to his disciples when he made the statement: “This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.”

    14 Unlike unbelievers, Jesus’ disciples would not only see the sign but also understand its significance. They would “learn” from the features of that sign and “know” their true meaning. They would fully appreciate that “he is near at the doors.” While it is true that both unbelieving Jews and faithful anointed Christians saw a limited fulfillment of Jesus’ words in the first century, only his anointed followers back then could learn from these events—could understand the true meaning of what they saw.

    15Those without spiritual understanding today have felt that there has been no “striking observableness” with regard to the sign of Jesus’ presence. They reason that everything is continuing on as it did in the past. (2 Pet. 3:4) On the other hand, Christ’s faithful anointed brothers, the modern-day John class, have recognized this sign as if it were a flash of lightning and have understood its true meaning. As a class, these anointed ones make up the modern-day “generation” of contemporaries that will not pass away “until all these things occur.” This suggests that some who are Christ’s anointed brothers will still be alive on earth when the foretold great tribulation begins.

    Now I am confused here. Wasn't this the original understanding of WTSB prior to November 1, 1995? Why change and go back? Again, no wonder why I am fading.

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    Hi Girlie. That is the Watchtower Feb 15 2008

    Cheers

    Chris

  • BabaYaga
    BabaYaga

    Thanks for the scans, Black Sheep. I didn't realize the generation bit showed up in the publication boiler plate, too.

  • Girlie
    Girlie

    Thanks BS (no pun intended). Had to change and reformat my post.

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