Can someone help me? (page 4)

losthusband

Thank you for all the sound advice.

I have met many of my partners friends (JWs) and they seem very nice people.

I have made attempts to bring up their past teachings and false dates etc. However they just told me that they had recieved new light and quoted a passage from the bible.

Whenever I brought anything else (blood, shunning etc) up they seemed to have answers for everything!

The last time I questioned their teachings with my wife, she arranged for three JWs to come around to my house and "answer" my concerns. I didn't stand a chance and now she feels that she is justified in what she is doing and that it is indeed "the truth"!

Since then I have done a lot more research and feel much better armed, however they make a point of calling when I'm not around (at work etc.) to do the "studies".

I think I will tread lightly with my wife and try to slowly drip feed the information I have learned. My daughter is quite shy and I think that all the attention she has been recieving has turned her head. Maybe if this gradually stops she will see them for what they are.

One final point, my daughter has said at meetings that a 25 year old man, keeps complimenting her on her appearance etc. I have heard that heir is a "shortage" of wives in the JWs as their population is aging. Am I to be worried that she will bcome a target of all the men if she goes deeper into the congregation.

Again, Thanks for all the advice so far.

OnTheWayOut

I don't know about where you are, but there is generally NOT a shortage of women to marry, but a shortage of men for the women to marry. Still, attention would be paid to a young girl approaching marrying age and she would appreciate that from a cleancut looking guy.

As far as your situation with the study and your wife, don't even bother to try to shoot down the JW's personally. They have circular logic to combat most stuff and fall back on stupid assumptions when they don't have answers: Satan controls the media where you got your information. That was cleared up with new light. YADDA YADDA.

Do the reading assignment I suggested: COMBATTING CULT MIND CONTROL, RELEASING THE BONDS, CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE.

Try websites like jwfacts.com and go ahead and take your concerns and discoveries to your wife and teen. Tell her you don't want some slick flawed logic from the JW's to answer her concerns. You want her to know what's reality and are revealing it to her. Also, on this forum, there is a poster named AWAKENED @ GILEAD. Click on his name in the members and look at the posts he started to see his youtube posts. It's a great place to learn stuff. Look at some of the other JW-related videos that turn up on his videos pages.

tenyearsafter

losthusband,

OTWO makes a great point...read up on cults and get a balanced historical perspective on JW's. I personally think Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom, both by Ray Franz, are the best of this type of perspective. Use the internet to do your research (ie: JW FActs, Freeminds, etc.) and make notes on what you find. It is always difficult to think on your feet when you are "under the gun". Going two or three on one is a typical tactic that JW's use when they "answer" your questions...it helps them fill in the blank spots and puts you at a disadvantage to respond easily. Have notes handy and go one-on-one if you feel the need to have Q&A sessions with them. It might be useful to have your wife sit in under those circumstances, but I would avoid the scenarios where you have more than one person there to "help" you.

SOM,

I really wanted to believe you were trying to help losthusband, but what does the Wild Beast have to do with losthusband's problem?? It looks more like an attempt to hijack the thread so you can give your End Times plug. And you never answered my question...why assign a date to the Coming of God's Kingdom by saying you anticipate it this year?? Doesn't the Bible specifically say that "no man knows the day or the hour"??

Losthusband...use the tools you have available and keep focused on what you need to answer your questions...you will come up with the right answers.

parakeet

One final point, my daughter has said at meetings that a 25 year old man, keeps complimenting her on her appearance etc. I have heard that heir is a "shortage" of wives in the JWs as their population is aging. Am I to be worried that she will bcome a target of all the men if she goes deeper into the congregation.

There's your answer as to why a teenager would want to attend KH meetings. She is being "courted" in every sense of the word. The congregation is showering her with "love" and attention to demonstrate how wonderful, loving, and godlike they are. If your daughter commits to the dubs and gets baptized (dunked in water), that attention will fade quicker than snow in May.

As for the 25-year-old man, perhaps he needs to be reminded of the meaning of the term, "statutory rape." If your daughter is attracted to him, she's in real trouble.

I truly wish the best of luck to you, losthusband.

out4good3

If I'm not mistaken, didn't you mention that your daughter is 17 Years old? And shy?

Of course that 25 YO man is going to start sniffing around likely thinking he can 'stake his claim" just after the bleached water evaporates as she steps out of the baptismal pool. While there are a lot of women within marrying age amongst JWs, the pickins are slim as most of the youth are running out the back door as they come of age. The rest, under duress and misunderstanding from raging hormones, are getting married to the first warm body that shows any interest in them. A couple of months later, they find themselves expecting of a bundle of joy they are hardly prepared for trapping them even further into the clutches of the cult.

I'm stunned that your wife hasn't raised an eyebrow at a man that age showing that kind of interest in your daughters appearance. Surely she wouldn't be so forgiving of this activity were it a man outside of the KH.

leavingwt

What's Wrong with Being a JW?

http://www.jwfacts.com//watchtower/wrong-with-being-jehovahs-witness.php

Son of Man

SOM,

I really wanted to believe you were trying to help losthusband, but what does the Wild Beast have to do with losthusband's problem?? It looks more like an attempt to hijack the thread so you can give your End Times plug. And you never answered my question...why assign a date to the Coming of God's Kingdom by saying you anticipate it this year?? Doesn't the Bible specifically say that "no man knows the day or the hour"??

Losthusband...use the tools you have available and keep focused on what you need to answer your questions...you will come up with the right answers.

The answer to your question can be found at this thread:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/180678/1/Dated-Fulfillments-of-Bible-Prophecy-the-faithful-slave

Son of Man

Final recommendation from me:

If you feel you are ready to conform your life to that of a Christian, then follow along with your wife and daughter in attendance. There are truly wonderful people that can bring good association to you and your family. As a wise parent watch after your daughter to be sure that no unwanted gestures by males fall her way. Teach her to be strong and to withstand the unwanted gestures always in a loving and kind manner. At the same time, toss aside that which you do not believe and do not adapt to their way of thinking in other matters as well. I would also recommend that you not participate in the door to door activity. The organization carries many controversial teachings and this will bring humiliation and scourge to you and your family.

Finally, you being the father take the lead in raising your child and looking after your wife. Be sure that they recieve good spiritual guidance. Do not allow any man to rule over you or your household. Do not let anyone force you into something you are not comfortable with in your spiritual practrice. You will find that there does exist genuine individuals in the congregation that do show love in a Christ-like manner. All in all, may GOD be with you and your family.

With all my love,

Estephan Leuese

wantingtruth

DEAR SOM,

I like so much your nick

I apreciate so much your decision to serve God

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with cristian love, rus virgil

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Welcome losthusband!

I have met many of my partners friends (JWs) and they seem very nice people.

It's a requirement for them to seem very nice, otherwise Jehovah will destroy them and their children... very soon now.

I have made attempts to bring up their past teachings and false dates etc. However they just told me that they had recieved new light and quoted a passage from the bible.

It's a standard "out flank", "out wit", "out maneuver". They're accustomed to having their teachings change that they have to accept the "light gets brighter" line, and they think you should expect drastic changes in their dogma to be acceptable too.

Whenever I brought anything else (blood, shunning etc) up they seemed to have answers for everything!

The last time I questioned their teachings with my wife, she arranged for three JWs to come around to my house and "answer" my concerns. I didn't stand a chance and now she feels that she is justified in what she is doing and that it is indeed "the truth"!

They use the same tactic they accuse others of using... be a moving target. They jam their point down your throat and try to move on before you can really question them further. Know one topic well.

On another note, what non-JW family do you have? Are you close? How will your wife and children feel to know that the god of Jehovah's Witnesses is about to slaughter their dear granny or aunt or cousins?

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