My condolences to you and your family...
MY BROTHER-IN-LAW HAS DIED
by Mary 126 Replies latest jw friends
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Mary
Well the elder who's going to be conducting the funeral talk just came by and told my sister that he "can't use most of what she's written, because he has to follow the Society's funeral talk outline which apparently takes precedence over a grieving widow's wishes. In other words, my brother in law will barely be mentioned because the talk is going to be a frigging infomercial for the religion instead.
Given the fact that my emotions are all over the place right now, and given the resentment I have towards the WTS for having a hand in my brother in law's death, this elder is lucky he doesn't have a punched in face. My sister is very angry at his attitude and is considering getting someone else to do the talk.
Christ almighty, this is beyond digusting even though it shouldn't surprise me.
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AllTimeJeff
Mary, there are liberal elders who will stray from the outline, although lately, the Service Dept has elders in the cross hairs. But yeah, technically, they can't stray from that goddam outline.
My heart is just breaking for you as it is, and to have that shoved on top is horrible. You all should be angry, your grief is getting 2nd place to more borg propaganda....
I wish I had the words to help calm you down. Maybe, as long as you don't get arrested for getting too crazy, you should just ride the wave as best you can. This is despicable. You should be pissed.
(((Mary)))
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babygirl75
So sorry Mary!!!
You're right...It's disgusting!!!! I've got a copy of the JW funeral outline. The footnote does mention "Instead of Eulogizing the deceased, use the material in this outline to give a fine witness concerning the truth" Pisses me off!!!!!!!!!!
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dinah
(((Mary))) You have every right to be mad as hell. What bastards! They have a woman who just lost her husband, and they won't even use any of her eulogy because they have to stuck to the outline?? Maybe you guys should seriously look into having someone else do it. Though, every elder will probably say the same thing.
I'm sorry you are having to deal with these mindless pricks on top of the grief of losing a loved one.
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deep-blue-sea
I'm so sad....thanks for sharing your feelings about your brother in law, he must have been a real GOOD men! Wish lot of strenght to your sister and you.
So sad to realize that the Watchtower looks only to the propaganda during the talk instead of caring for the beloved one who just left!
Claudia
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BabaYaga
Mary said:
Given the fact that my emotions are all over the place right now, and given the resentment I have towards the WTS for having a hand in my brother in law's death, this elder is lucky he doesn't have a punched in face.
Oh good lord, do I understand where you are coming from. When my beloved Dad died (yes, you guessed it... he needed a blood transfusion) I was shunned by some of the JW visitors, but some of them wanted to hug and console me. This does not speak well of my character, I realize... but at that time, with all of my anger at the mindlessly rediculous loss of my Father... I just wanted to hurt them for coming near me. My thoughts screamed what my voice could not, "Don't touch me, you just killed my Father!"
I got out of there as fast as I could.
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flipper
MARY- I'm so sorry the WT propaganda is being crammed down you and your grieving families throat. It is disgusting. Is there an elder, ANY elder that you or your family knows who is " liberal " as ALL TIME JEFF asked that would stray from the WT society outline ? Does your sister or you have an elder who has been a close friend of the family and has an independent nature ( and balls of steel ) who would go to bat for you and your family ? I hope you can find someone who will pay tribute to your sisters husband like he and she deserves.
I certainly don't look forward to my JW parents dying ( dad is 84, mom is 82) - I'm afraid I will be tangled in mortal combat with my older elder brother about the wording used in either of their funeral talks. My brother knows I won't back down- not looking forward to it.
BABA YAGA - I'm so sorry to hear of how you were treated at your dad's funeral. It's disgusting he died for no purpose but to appease a power hungry mind control cult. You have my hugs sis - please know that you are valued and cherished here on the board
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OnTheWayOut
Mary, I feel for you. You can also suggest to family that a private memorial be had. Anyone- her or you included- can say whatever they want about the man. You don't have to rent a hall. You can do this at the gravesite, at the funeral home (if there is one), at someone's home, or at a restaurant that gives you a semi-private area.
It doesn't have to conflict with the JW thing. Just say that it is a real chance to remember him the way you all want to, rather than the "necessary" JW recruitment talk.
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betterdaze
So sorry Mary, my sincere condolences to you and yours.
Mr. B has a dear cousin suffering from the same disease, and knowing what he's been through (even with blood transfusions and finally locating a stem cell donor) we can understand what a painful ordeal it has been all along.
I am beyond anger that the WT minions would add further burdens to your family's loss! Their refusal to accept a wife's loving eulogy is wholly unjustified, disgracefully un-Christian, and downright inhumane.
Wishing you all strength in the days ahead,
~Sue