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jaguarbass
I always wondered about who made God and us and I have a library of books looking for
and claiming to have the answer.
The best answer I have found for my self is you created Jehovah.
You are Jehovah, you are me and we are all one.
We are conciousness.
We have broken off from the main conciousness, which some call Jehovah among many other things,
and are spirits having material experiences.
And we are all having this experience in the only moment there is right now.
If you want some other harsher explanations that to me require more faith.
There is evolution we evolved out of a primordial pool from an amoeba into a comon ancestor.
a possibility that is mathematically impossible. But having once been a Christian I guess with
faith anything is possible.
Man does not know or have the answer to where we came from, our origins.
Just like a dog or a cow does not know.
Those who say they know just want your money.
If you give them your money they will invest it into supporting their theory.
Richard Dawkins, and Billy Grahm are all about making money off their theories.
We are all consumers on this planet and those higher up the food chain are finding needs and
things for us to consume from theories about our origins to fancy cell phones.
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warmasasunned
that was always the no no question. i was told don't ask that one you will drive yourself mad. but it proves a point, if everything as a beginning i:e creation, not evolution, then to say god was always there, he just always was an always as been, then why can't evolution be true?... they talk themseleves in knots.
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God_Delusion
God made man, made made god.
If you really want answers, please read the book, The Greatest Show On Earth.
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bluecanary
Here's another question for your wonderings: If God existed alone, with no universe and no other beings, how could he have any concept of himself? We understand ourselves in relation to other beings and our environment. I know I am me because I am not you. I know where I am because my butt is on the chair, not the couch. I know what I am because I understand the difference between humans and animals and rocks and everything else. It may be entirely subjective but I can understand concepts like good/bad, ugly/beautiful, stupid/intelligent because I can discern things that can be described in these ways. If there is nothing else in existence, God cannot be good or loving. Those qualities require an object to act upon. If there is nothing, there is nothing to think about and hence no thought.
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Satanus
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In the pantheist, 'god' is continuously experiencing through us and everything else. Perhaps 'through' isn't accurate, as we ARE it and IT is US. It's always first hand. It plays all the parts, as well. And 'it' isn't that smart, or that conscious. It seems that many people can't see this, even if they work at it. And that's not to attribute anything negative to them.
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paul from cleveland
solipsism?
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Satanus
In a way. It works off direct experience, as opposed to religion, which comes from others or books or is based on something OUT THERE.
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Chalam
Hi WTL,
God is infinite and there are some things that are always going to be impossible for us to totally grasp with out finite minds.
Consider eternity for example?
Or maybe the universe?
The main one we cannot fully grasp is Jesus, God with us Matthew 1:23 John 1:1 Revelation 22:13
Why come down here and suffer at the hands of men (who Jesus created) a brutal death for mankind?
It is incomprehensible until you begin to understand that God's love is huge.
All the best,
Stephen