It's nice to see the WTS is lightening up...

by peacedog 45 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    Actually, perhaps I am wrong on church weddings...can someone clarify- and if needed correct my statements regarding church weddings and funerals?

  • Georgiegirl
    Georgiegirl

    Laughing - oh we love sarcasm here! Just didn't know it since it was your first post. Glad to have you on board.

    Everyone else, again, the "games" have begun - take your toys out of the sandbox and head home.

  • VIII
    VIII

    VIII what is a mass? Ive been to funerals, they sing and chat about the person end of.....logic....yes you clearly havent.

    False stupidity is sooo ugly. Google it. I'm sure the GB won't mind.

    but,

    Your calling it "a mass" means you already know what it is.

  • Goshawk
    Goshawk
    LOL yeah, pretty soon the WT will accept the trinity as well.

    Oh man I just got busted for laughing out loud here at work.

    In the name of the Governing Body, Writing Department, and Legal Department you have been forgiven. You will have to put in 15 hours field service and 2 book placements, now go my child and sin no more.

    The WT$ trinity.

  • angel eyes
    angel eyes

    you said it was a full mass..lmho...whats a mass? ok you dont wana say fine but how can i listen to you if you fool around.

    Yes church funerals are ok....thankyou :)

    as i said weddings arent...thankyou again.x

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    I knew church funerals...not in the mood to load my cd now to check on weddings...I would not take your word on JW doctrine and what is or is not allowed AE...Any others have any input on church weddings being allowed or not?

  • VIII
    VIII

    The Chicago COs, POs and Elders will kick your ass for going into any other faiths church. Period. You will be put on private reproof if not DFd. It is a set up for severe sanctions.

    You might as well invite Satan and every demon into your home. And go buy some antiques and put them in your bedroom. And go on apostate websites.

    Oh, but you (ae) are already doing that.

    Going into a Church, Synagog, etc. is simply not allowed where I am. I have no idea if it is in the literature. It is inviting Satan and other ideas back into your head. Why would the GB allow any JW into another church? For anything? Even a funeral? Or wedding?

    They don't want you to see how the other side lives. Simple.

    We were absolutely not allowed to go to any funeral or wedding for any Non-JW family member. Didn't matter who. When my non-JW grandparents died? Mass in a church--we didn't go. Period. We went only to the cemetery. For my frigging GrandParents.

    JWs are sick.

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    church weddings are up to the conscience: 12/15/74 WT QFR

    Questions

    From

    Readers

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    WhatistheviewofJehovah’switnessestowardattendingtheweddingofaworldlyacquaintanceor

    relative?

    In the case of minors who contemplate attending, the final decision rests with the parents. Otherwise it is a matter for personal decision, with each Christian being willing to bear his own responsibility. However, there are Scriptural principles and a wide variety of circumstances that should be considered.

    The wedding ceremony may be conducted in a religious building and by a clergyman. This would make it quite different from a purely civil ceremony. A true Christian could not conscientiously join or participate in any prayers or religious exercises that he knew to be contrary to Bible teaching. Nor is he interested to see how close he can come to apostate acts without overstepping the line. He is under obligation to heed the Scriptural command: "Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? . . . Or what portion does a faithful person have with an unbeliever? . . . ‘Therefore get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing.’"—2 Cor. 6:14-17.

    Understandably, one invited to attend a wedding of worldly relatives and acquaintances may at times be faced with quite a problem. For example, the invitation may have been extended to a Christian wife and her unbelieving husband. He may think that both of them should be present for the wedding. Yet she may be troubled about it. She may reason that, if she were to attend a church wedding, the emotional pressure of the circumstances could cause her to do something wrong. On the other hand, she might conclude that, out of regard for her husband’s wishes, she could go with him merely as a respectful observer, but being determined not to share in any religious acts.

    Regardless of how a wife might view the matter, it would be to her advantage to explain her position to her husband. If, on the basis of her explanation, he comes to the conclusion that his wife’s presence may possibly give rise to a situation unpleasant to him, he may prefer to go alone. Or, he may still want her to go with him, but as a quiet observer, in which case she will have to decide whether to go.

    Something that deserves consideration is the effect that attending a wedding in a religious building might have on fellow believers. Could it injure the conscience of some? Might their resistance to engaging in actual idolatrous acts be weakened by this action of yours? A Bible principle that comes into the picture is: "Make sure of the more important things, so that you may be flawless and not be stumbling others up to the day of Christ."—Phil. 1:10; see also 1 Corinthians 8:9-13.

    At times an invitation to a wedding may include being actively involved as a member of the bridal party. What if this required participation in certain religious acts? Manifestly one desiring to be pleasing to God could not share in acts of false religion; the person must act in harmony with his Word. But a Christian could explain just how he feels and point out that in no way does he want to mar the joy of the wedding day by being responsible for what might prove to be an embarrassing situation.

    In matters of this nature, Christians must carefully weigh all the factors involved. Under certain circumstances they may conclude that no difficulties would arise if they were to attend as quiet observers. On the other hand, the circumstances may be such that a Christian may reason that likely injury to his conscience or that of others by attending such worldly wedding outweighs the possible benefits of attending. Whatever the situation, the Christian should make sure that his decision will not interfere with his preserving a good conscience before God and men.

    ?

    WhydoestheNewWorldTranslationnotshow,initspreface,thenamesandscholasticstandingofits

    translators?

    Over the years, the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania has printed many different Bible translations. In doing so we have not ignored the wishes of the translators. For example, in 1972 we published TheBibleinLivingEnglish in the style and format desired by its translator.—See title page.

    On September 3, 1949, the New World Bible Translation Committee presented us with a completed translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures. This manuscript, along with their work on the Hebrew Scriptures that followed, became our legal property. In regard to this, page 258 of the book Jehovah’sWitnessesintheDivinePurpose notes: "The one request of the translation committee was that its members remain anonymous even after their death." We have kept our agreement and respected their wishes.

    But why was this stipulation made? These translators were not seeking prominence; they did not desire to draw attention to themselves. In the spirit of ‘doing all things for God’s glory,’ they wanted the reader to base his faith on God’s Word, not on their worldly "qualifications." (1 Cor. 10:31) Other translation committees have taken a similar view. The jacket of the Reference Edition (1971) of the NewAmericanStandardBible states: "We have not used any scholar’s name for reference or recommendations because it is our belief God’s Word should stand on its merits."

    The merits of the NewWorldTranslation are easily studied. Its large-print editions carry numerous footnotes. Many show which Bible manuscripts were involved with decisions on particular renderings. And these footnotes, along with an extensive Foreword, give the careful student more information concerning the sources and work of the translation committee than he could find in most translations.

    Further, in 1969 we printed TheKingdomInterlinearTranslationoftheGreekScriptures, also the work of the New World Bible Translation Committee. This Greek-English work gives anyone the opportunity to examine closely the endeavors of the translation committee on that portion of the Bible.

    Some may argue that even the Bible books themselves bear the names of the writers. In many cases this is true. However, in a number of Bible books the writers did not include their names. Similarly, we note that they say little about their personal qualifications or educational background. In translating God’s Word, the New World Bible Translation Committee has felt that the particulars of their university or other educational training are not the important thing, though the translation itself testifies to their qualifications. A close examination of their work should direct the reader, not to the translators, but to the Bible’s Author, Jehovah God.

    Too, we note the humility of the committee in acknowledging in their footnotes that there are other ways that passages could be rendered. Appreciating this, we have always both recognized and encouraged the use of a variety of Bible translations. Thus, while deeply grateful for the work of the New World Bible Translation Committee, Jehovah’s witnesses use whatever Bibles are available in the local languages. Whether it be the clear, modern-language NewWorldTranslation or another, we encourage all to use the lamp of God’s Word to light life’s roadway.—Ps. 119:105.

    [Footnotes]

    See TheWatchtower, 1950, p. 315.

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    but VII is right...in practice JWs don't do it...and probably would be considered a bad example if they did

  • sir82
    sir82

    No harm no foul.

    It's hard to know if sarcasm is intended on "Post 1 of 1".

    Feel free to fire away!

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