Why weren't the rebellious angels destroyed?

by jabberwock 28 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • truthseeker
    truthseeker

    From what I read some of the demons wanted to live like humans - they have observed human mating habits for centuries and wanted to experience it for themselves.

  • Son of Man
    Son of Man


    Genesis is not about a loving God. It's allegory to a mean SOB that tells humans "OBEY OR ELSE." He's such a mean SOB that the other lesser gods (morphed from mythology into the sons of God, morphed by later people into angels since they only had one god) tried to get around his rules. God didn't destroy them because He was flattered that they thought women (His creation) were ultra-fine. He knew they couldn't help themselves. He knew it would be like creating Man without knowledge of good and bad, tempting him with something that requires that knowledge, then holding Man responsible for failing the loyalty test.

    Volumes could be written on what Genesis really meant. OH, they have been written. Nevermind.


    Free Will does not comply with "Obey or Else" now does it? We have the opportunity to make up our own minds, otherwise you would not be able to write what you did and call the One who created all life forms what you are. Your stupid mind cannot comprehend what was written, so if you don't understand what you read don't read it.

    Did the angels forsake their proper dwelling place because they were weak sexually? Think about it, an angel does not have genitals like humans or do they? Therefore would it not make sense that they did it simply to rebel and to anger The Almighty GOD? Or were they so weak that they could not withstand their sexual desires? Do angels have the same fleshly desires as human? Where have you read that they have intercourse with one another and create baby angels?

    Read the account of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden in a symbolic way and see if you could make sense out of it. How many trees that you know of grow knowledge? Was it a literal fruit or a symbolic fruit that they ate of? Just because you do not understand the Wisdom of The Almighty GOD does not give you the right to condemn HIM or question HIM now does it?

    t.f.d.s.

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    Anyone have a scan of the wt answer on this?

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    Son of Man, I was in a dangerous mind-control cult for a long time. Often, they used the technique of belittling (attacking) those they disagree with. So saying this....

    "Your stupid mind cannot comprehend what was written, so if you don't understand what you read don't read it."

    ....means that I should not bother to address your points. You do better than I could at revealing your true nature.

  • Edington
    Edington

    WTWizard you worry me!

    I'm not a WTS sop & there are many things 'God' has done or now does or doesn't do that I feel at odds with but to read excuses made for Satan on this discussion board has pulled me up with a jolt.

    Does anyone else feel this way?

    Ed

  • Butterflyleia85
    Butterflyleia85

    Here are some rebel angels that got destroyed...

    10To emphasize that God will take action against willful wrongdoers, Peter provides from the Scriptures three warning examples. First, he writes: "God did not hold back from punishing the angels that sinned." These, Jude says, "did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place" in heaven. They came to earth before the Flood and took on fleshly bodies so as to engage in sexual relations with the daughters of men. As punishment for their improper, unnatural conduct, they were thrown into "Tartarus," or as Jude’s account says, they were "reserved with eternal bonds under dense darkness for the judgment of the great day."—2 Peter 2:4; Jude 6; Genesis 6:1-3.

    11Next, Peter refers to the people of Noah’s day. (Genesis 7:17-24) He says that in Noah’s time God "did not hold back from punishing an ancient world . . . when he brought a deluge upon a world of ungodly people." Finally, Peter writes that God set "a pattern for ungodly persons of things to come" by "reducing the cities Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes." Jude gives the additional information that those individuals "committed fornication excessively and [went] out after flesh for unnatural use." (2 Peter 2:5, 6; Jude 7) Men not only had illicit sexual relations with women but lusted for the flesh of other men, possibly even for the flesh of brute beasts.—Genesis 19:4, 5; Leviticus 18:22-25.

    w97 9/1 p. 15

  • joelingeorgia
    joelingeorgia

    Why didn't the angels that stayed loyal to Jehovah prove his Universal Sovereignty?

  • Butterflyleia85
    Butterflyleia85

    ... in view of the fact that even God’s angels are shown to be mortal, despite their possessing spirit bodies, not carnal ones. Angelic mortality is evident in view of the judgment of death entered against the spirit son who became God’s Adversary, or Satan, and also against those other angels who followed that satanic course and "did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place." (Jude 6; Mt 25:41; Re 20:10, 14)

    it-1 p. 1190

    Nothing suggests that these spirit creatures were to be like robots in obeying God. Rather, he endowed them with intelligence and free will. Biblical accounts indicate that God encourages freedom of thought and freedom of action—confident that these pose no permanent threat to peace and harmony in the universe. Paul, using the personal name for the Creator, as found in the Hebrew Bible, wrote: "Now Jehovah is the Spirit; and where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom."—2 Corinthians 3:17.

    ct. chap. 6 p. 87

  • Butterflyleia85
    Butterflyleia85

    Jehovah God allows "an operation of error" to go to persons who prefer falsehood "that they may get to believing the lie" rather than the good news about Jesus Christ. (2Th 2:9-12) This principle is illustrated by what happened centuries earlier in the case of Israelite King Ahab. Lying prophets assured Ahab of success in war against Ramoth-gilead, while Jehovah’s prophet Micaiah foretold disaster. As revealed in vision to Micaiah, Jehovah allowed a spirit creature to become "a deceptive spirit" in the mouth of Ahab’s prophets. That is to say, this spirit creature exercised his power upon them so that they spoke, not truth, but what they themselves wanted to say and what Ahab wanted to hear from them. Though forewarned, Ahab preferred to be fooled by their lies and paid for it with his life.—1Ki 22:1-38; 2Ch 18.

    it-2 p. 245

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