by moomanchu 26 Replies latest jw friends
That's interesting dozy, never heard of that.
What is irritating is they never just come out and plainly say " we made a mistake we're sorry".
Reminds me of Adam talking to God " It's the woman you gave me. She gave me the fruit that's why I ate it".
Adam didn't have the new light thing yet .
I have never seen a straighforward "we were wrong" out of these jackals. They make chickenshite statements like "some Witnesses said" or a weak passive voice such as "it was published by this journal".
Without apology and restitution, there is no escaping the bloodguilt the organization is under for their abominations.
I never heard of the Australia inncident before, was there a reason why they came out and confessed? I can't see why they would do it without some external reason for it.
I've heard the 1975 half ass apolagy but mostly a blame shift. If I remember correctly Rutherford said he made an ass of himself about 1925 fiasco but I don't remember the whole story behind that remark.
Usually wts will change their view and instead of apolaging will make a comment that it's upto witnesses' conscience to decide as to the matter, that way it doesn't look like GB changed their mind but gives the responsibility to the rank and file in actually having a choice on the matter.
This is the closest I have found, but the FDS is still not responsible as I read it:
*** w80 3/15pp.17-18 Choosing the Best Way of Life***Hold to Your Choice!
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If we remain faithful, God will not let us make ruinous mistakes. But sometimes he permits us to be in error so that we may see our need to look always to him and his Word. This strengthens our relationship with him and our endurance while waiting. We learn from our mistakes that it is necessary to be more careful in the future. The desire for the new system of things to take complete charge of the earth has always been very strong in Christians down through the centuries. And because of their own short life-span, they doubtless longed for it to come in their particular lifetime. Those who have tried to keep God’s judgment time “close in mind” have, on more than one occasion throughout history, become overly eager for that day’s arrival, in their own minds trying to rush the arrival of the desired events. (2 Pet. 3:12) In the first century, for example, the apostle Paul found it necessary to write to Christians in Thessalonica in this fashion, as we read at 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3: “However, brothers, respecting the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of you not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here. Let no one seduce you in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.”
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In modern times such eagerness, commendable in itself, has led to attempts at setting dates for the desired liberation from the suffering and troubles that are the lot of persons throughout the earth. With the appearance of the book Life Everlasting—in Freedom of the Sons of God, and its comments as to how appropriate it would be for the millennial reign of Christ to parallel the seventh millennium of man’s existence, considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975. There were statements made then, and thereafter, stressing that this was only a possibility. Unfortunately, however, along with such cautionary information, there were other statements published that implied that such realization of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility. It is to be regretted that these latter statements apparently overshadowed the cautionary ones and contributed to a buildup of the expectation already initiated.
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In its issue of July 15, 1976, TheWatchtower, commenting on the inadvisability of setting our sights on a certain date, stated: “If anyone has been disappointed through not following this line of thought, he should now concentrate on adjusting his viewpoint, seeing that it was not the word of God that failed or deceived him and brought disappointment, but that his own understanding was based on wrong premises.” In saying “anyone,” TheWatchtower included all disappointed ones of Jehovah’s Witnesses, hence including persons having to do with the publication of the information that contributed to the buildup of hopes centered on that date.
Never, and if it's in writing they get rid of the books. Watchtower and Awake volumes prior to 1980 were called in quite a few years ago.
Russel's and Rutherford's meanderings were gone long ago except for misc. personal collections,..... but highly frowned upon. (The 7 books are still proudly displayed in my mom's living room)
When pointed out to her some of the contents, she laughs and says, "Oh, just ignore that."
The Internet is the biggest problem for these old duds and I mean duds in New York. Every thing is coming back to haunt them.
My biggest beef is that anyone who knew or went through the 1975 debacle will be gone eventually, and there will be no eye witnesses to their biggest farce in modern history so far. They are getting away with it with new members now.
Ok, sorry for the rant.
r.
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In modern times such eagerness, commendable in itself, has led to attempts at setting dates for the desired liberation from the suffering and troubles that are the lot of persons throughout the earth. With the appearance of the book Life Everlasting—in Freedom of the Sons of God, and its comments as to how appropriate it would be for the millennial reign of Christ to parallel the seventh millennium of man’s existence, considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975. There were statements made then, and thereafter, stressing that this was only a possibility. Unfortunately, however, along with such cautionary information, there were other statements published that implied that such realization of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility. It is to be regretted that these latter statements apparently overshadowed the cautionary ones and contributed to a buildup of the expectation already initiated.
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In its issue of July 15, 1976, The Watchtower, commenting on the inadvisability of setting our sights on a certain date, stated: “If anyone has been disappointed through not following this line of thought, he should now concentrate on adjusting his viewpoint, seeing that it was not the word of God that failed or deceived him and brought disappointment, but that his own understanding was based on wrong premises.” In saying “anyone,” The Watchtower included all disappointed ones of Jehovah’s Witnesses, hence including persons having to do with the publication of the information that contributed to the buildup of hopes centered on that date.
There you have it, that passive voice where they distance themselves from being agents in the events of 1975, but bystanders. They say "the Watchtower said", as if the Watchtower is some sort of self animated creature with a will of its own. Add in a bit of blaming the victims. They are a religion of Weasels.
Volumes prior to 1980 were called in??????
The congregations here (all 12) still have them in their libraries (in fact some back to the 1920's) and all the jws I know still have them in their libraries (my relatives have them back to the 1950's) and never heard of a "call-in."
The WT volumes are still on the CDs back to the 1950's and the Awakes back to the 1970's.
Thankyou Dozy... I was begining to wonder if this book even existed at all... it sounds like a 'band-aid' for the 1975 flop!
