The land of Judah still had people on it during the Babylonian Exile

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  • Doug Mason
    Doug Mason

    The WTS commences the “Seventy Years” of the Babylonian Exile when people from the city of Mizpah left for Egypt, following the murder of Governor Gedaliah. The WTS claims that the Seventy Years could not commence until Judah was without a living soul or domestic animal, and that this departure for Egypt marked that moment. Their position, however, is not supported by Scripture or archaeology.

    The Hebrews said the land was to be without “inhabitant”( y`v^B ) or without “men” ( a`D`< ), but they never said it would be without “people” ( u^< ).

    The general meaning of y`v^B (inhabitant) is to “sit, sit down”, with the connotations of “live, dwell, remain, settle”. When they used the word for “inhabitant”, the prophets thus understood it with the understanding of “settled”; this was missing from the land of Judah during the Exile.

    a`D`< is typically used when the biblical writer wants to indicate humanity as a whole. Speaking before Jerusalem fell, the people were saying that the land was already desolate and “without men” ( a`D`< ), and the reason they gave was that Babylon was already in control of the country - “ It is a desolate waste, without men (adam) or animals, for it has been handed over to the Babylonians .’” Jer. 32:43. (See also Jer 33:10-12, written while Babylon was attacking Jerusalem.)

    The meaning of u^< (without “people”, which expression was not used in this context) is a congregated unit of people, especially a tribe (as those of Israel), a nation, army, troop, etc. Most frequently u^< denotes a large group of people united by a familial relationship.

    Archaeologists and historians agree that Judah was not devoid of human inhabitants. Views include those who see minimal or no disruption to normal life for those left in Judah (such as Barstad, Carroll, McNutt), those who recognise a level of disruption (such as Finkelstein, Silberman) and those who see major impact on Judah and its people (such as Schniedewind). Whatever their view on the level of disruption, all recognise that the evidence shows people continued to live on the land. The following was written by Schniedewind:

    “ Recent archaeological investigations have increasingly laid bare the fury of the Babylonian destruction of Jerusalem, Judah, and the entire Levant ... Despite recent tendencies to dismiss or downplay the exile, the scope and ferocity of the Babylonian conquest are becoming clearer with each new archaeological investigation.

    “There was some continuity after the Babylonian exiles. ... A provisional center in the town of Mizpah was set up to the north of Jerusalem, which – unlike the rest of Judah – was largely unscathed by the Babylonian military campaigns; ... The demographic changes in Judah were quite profound, reflecting a massive depopulation. The land was not emptied, but it was depopulated. Moreover, every cultural institution of Judean life changed. There was no more Davidic king. There was no Temple. ... To be sure, the everyday life of the peasant in Yehud was perhaps not much different under the Babylonians or Persians than it had been under the Davidic kings – that is, the life for those few peasants who were not either killed in war, exiled to Babylon, or forced to flee from economic blight and social chaos.

    “The trauma of the Babylonian conquest and exile was profound in Judah. Although the material culture definitely continued after 586 BCE , the end of the Davidic monarchy and the destruction and pillaging of the Jerusalem Temple alone suggest that basic socialorganizations did not remain the same. ...

    “Barstad’s work underscores the way that the later collective memory of the Jewish people creates the event of the exile and emphasizes the totality of this catastrophe. This telescoping of the exile into a single event reflects psychological and ideological factors in later literature; however, the acute psychological trauma, the social dislocation, and the economic devastation were profound and lasting. ...

    “Archaeologists have done extensive surveys of settlement patterns for this period. From these surveys, a relative assessment of the demographics can be made. For example, in the seventh century BCE(at the end of the monarchy), there were at least 116 settled sites (cities, towns, and villages) in Judah. In the sixth century BCE(the Babylonian period), the number drops to 41 sites. Even more striking is that 92 of the 116 sites of the late monarchic period were abandoned in the Babylonian period. Eighty percent of the cities, towns, and villages were either abandoned or destroyed in the sixth century. Many of the towns and villages of the Persian period (41%, i.e., 17 of 41) were settled at previously virgin locations, reflecting a profound disjunction in the population. ...

    “Not only was Jerusalem burned, but most large cities disappear from Judah proper. In general, there is a population shift from the cities to villages. Excavations of cities such as Jerusalem, Lachish, Gezer, and Megiddo testify to great conflagrations set by the Babylonians in Palestine. And the depopulation trend continued throughout the Babylonian period. Moreover, pottery assemblages and distribution patterns change dramatically at the beginning of the Babylonian period. Only a few sites north of Jerusalem show significant continuity, particularly Mizpah, the center of the Babylonian provincial government. In short, by the end of the Babylonian period few people lived in Judah. Those who remained were “the poorest of the land” and lived in small towns and villages. The economy was essentially one of subsistence farming and pastoralism.” (How the Bible Became a Book, “The Fury of Babylon” , pp. 141-146)

    Two major political alignments in Judah were the urban populace and the pastoral. The former were typically the royal household and the priests and prophets of Jerusalem. The pastoral group was known as the “People of The Land” ( u^m h^-a^r\x ). When the authority of this regional power group held sway, the People of the Land removed and installed monarchs (such as Josiah – 2 Kings 21:24). The “Elders of the Land” was the group who defended Jeremiah when the Jerusalem priests wanted to kill him.

    With each deportation, Babylon exiled the elite, the power players, the upper echelon of Judaean society. They finally left behind the poorest of the People of the Land. It is not difficult to work out their reasons for doing this. The Babylonians redistributed land to these people, but these subsistence farmers spent their time struggling to survive.

    While in exile, the elite wrote that these traumatic events had happened to Judah because the people had not listened to the prophets during the previous centuries. These writers in exile did not record the events of Judah during that time, while the agrarian farming community of Judah continued to rely on oral transmission of their traditions. The written records are thus the biased views of the religious elite, who sought to regain the power they had enjoyed, such as during a brief time under Josiah. (It is fascinating to see that the People of the Land installed Josiah, yet the Jerusalem priests were able to sway him to their side with the use of a document they “discovered” during renovation of the temple.)

    When the first exiles returned to the temple site, they were met with hostility from the people who had remained on the land during the exile. Little imagination is required to comprehend the reason for their anger and concern.

    When the ideologue Ezra returned with his fundamentalist views, he too was confronted by the People of the Land, whom he accused of religious impurity. His extreme behaviour shows the antagonism between the Exiles and the People of the Land who had remained in Judah during the exile.

    So neither Scripture nor archaeology supports the WTS’s requirement that the land was utterly devoid of people during the Babylonian Exile.

  • moggy lover
    moggy lover

    Another comment I can share:

    "After the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple by the Babylonians in 586 BC, the city continued to be the focal point of the national aspirations of the exiles and those who had remained in Eretz-Israel. Pilgrimages to the Temple mount continued, not only from Judah, but also from Samaria. [Jer 41:5]"

    Encyclopedia of Archaeological Excavations in the Holy Land, article on: Jerusalem, history of. page 591, by B Mazar.

  • Doug Mason
    Doug Mason

    Moggy Lover,

    Thanks for that.

    If you are looking for a MOST interesting book, "How to Read the Jewish Bible", Marc Zvi Brettler. He's a Jewish professor of Biblical Literature, and it is enlkightening to see things from a Jewish perspective.

    BTW. He has these same views on the Babylonian Exile.

    Doug

  • behemot
    behemot

    A good book discussing this issue is: Hans M. BARSTAD, The Myth of the Empty Land: A Study in the History and Archaeology of Judah during the “Exilic” Period, Symbolae Osloenses, fasc. suppl., 28, Oslo, Scandinavian University Press 1996.

    Behemot

  • Larsinger58
    Larsinger58

    Thanks, Doug. I was hoping to focus on some specific archaeology.

    You stated that some people remained in the land during the exile and these made up those who opposed the Jews when they returned. i was hoping for some cities that the settled and the archaeology establishing they were continuous residents during the alleged exile period. No specifics were given.

    In the meantime, I had already noted that the destruction of Ashkelon had been confirmed to be a 75-80 years period just prior to the Persian Period.

    Furthermore, it was prophesied the temple rebuilding work would meet opposition by Jewish enemies. But is it really clear they were continuous inhabitants before the Jews arrived, or did they arrive and set up at the same time the Jews did?

    So what I was hoping to do was to hunt down some specific archaelogical sites that compared pottery patterns or changes during the Neo-Babylonian Period that showed specific continuous or intermittent occupation during the 70-year exile/desolation period.

    I tried doing a quick search and found it difficult to pin something down.

    So it seems every city does not tell a complete story. But Ashkelon did. It showed the complete destruction by Babylon followed by 75-80 years of non-occupation ending with the Persian Period, which reflects the Biblical history. So at least the archaeology of Ashkelon fits the Biblical narrative of the full 70 years.

    It could be said this might challenge the prsumably revised Neo-Babylonian Period. Josephus and the Bible, of course, represent the NB Period as 26 years longer than the current Babylonian records, though those records come from the Persian Period, indicating revision. Ashkelon's 75-80 year devastation, again, dated from about the fall of Jerusalem and thus the 1st of Cyrus in c. 538 BC dates the destruction back to 618 BCE, which would have been well before Nebuchadnezzar (604 BC) or the deportation of Daniel in the accession year of Nebuchadnezzar

    The Bible, of course confirms that Ashkelon was still a functioning city before Jerusalem was destroyed. So that is one Biblical contradiction, not to the "relative" chronology but to the new "absolute" chronology of the revised Persian Period. Thus note how this works out with the Biblical timeline dated from 455 BCE.

    When 455 BCE dates the 1st of Cyrus, 80 years earlier dates us back to 535 BC. 535 BC would be the 13th year of Nebuchadnezzar. Jerusalem was not to fall until 529 BCE. Per the Bible, if there were any inhabitants at Ashkelon, they would have had to have been beported by year 23 of Nebuchadnezzar in 525 BCE, which is exactly 70 years earlier than 525 BCE. So that compared with the archaeology is not a bad fit. Per the Bible, Ashkelon must fall after Babylon in 529 but be completely desolated by 4 years later in 525 BCE.

    The archaeologist said 75-80 years. 528 BCE, year 20 of Nebuchadnezzar is 73 years earlier, which is very close. Close enough to be considered as a confirmation of the 70-73 years of desolation required by the Bible.

    Further, it should be noted that this long period of desolation, if we do follow the history of the bible which requires the destruction and desolation after the fall of Jerusalem, would be direct archaeological evidence that the Neo-Babyloniaan Period timeline was reduced! That's because these 70 years of archaeological devasation do not fit into the shortened Neo-Babylonian timeline which removes some 26 years of Neo-Babylonian kings. So the archaeology from Ashkelon is a potential contradiction and indication the current Neo-Babylonan Period is too short. So we know at least one city, Ashkelon, confirms the desolation by Babylon lasting at least up to 70 years.

    That is why we need specific cities to compare with Ashkelon to see how strong the archaeology is for a continuous occupation. One indication to me would be an intermediary pottery period just prior to the Persian Period that is absent at Ashkelon. But if the pottery in use at Ashkelon's destruction is the same for the "continuous occupation" period, it would be difficult to confirm that site wasn't abandoned and destroyed for the same period.

    At any rate this is an excellent opportunity to look closely at what archaeologists have. I'm surprised I wasn't able to find some discussion on the topic easier, but also surprised you provided not specific archaeological city names that indicated continuous or partial occupation, giving us nothing to specific cross check against. Let me explain to you why this close look is necessary.

    Jezeel compound fudging by Israel Finkelstein:

    Here is what Israel Finkelstein says in his book, The Bible Unearthed" to help support his Low Chronology dating in relation to a Jezreel compound excavated by David Ussishikin Page 342:

    "They[Ussishkin team] uncovered a large fortified enclosure, which they identified with the palace built by Ahab in the first half of the ninth century BCE. This palatial acropolis was destroyed a short while after it was built... the date of abandonment of the Jezreel enclosure would be around the middle of the ninth century BCE. The surprise was that the pottery found in the Jezreel enclosure is identical to the pottery of he city of the palaces at Megiddo."

    Finkelstein then uses this to try to establish the dating of the destruction of the Solomonic level to a time past the time of Ahab. But note that it is not the actual absolute chronology from radicarbon 14 that is being used to date this, but the presumption made by Ussishkin that this building work was the palace of Ahab. Problem is, the palace of Ahab was next to a vineyard of Naboth and this enclosure is on the top of a hill, clearly designed as a military lookout. It is said to have been destroyed shortly after being built because of the lack of internal structures not yet built. So what does Finkelstein really have?

    He has a military enclosure, newly built, destroyed by Shishak in 871 BCE. Meaning what? Meaning that likely Rehoboam built it during his 6-year co-rulership with Solomon with no connection whatsoever to the palace of Ahab. Thus these archaeologists, apparently just because this compound was located at Jezreel presumed this was the palace of Ahad and thus became confused by the chronology, when in fact, absolutely nothing associates this with Ahab or the time of Ahab, since this clearly would not be a location near a vineyard.

    In the meantime, there is no problem placing the setting of this new compound into the Biblical timeline. This is merely consistent with Rehoboam building this new compound late in the reign of Solomon and Shishak destroying it when he came through and destroyed all the other cities. So you see, archaeologists not being that thorough or honest have to be check up after on all their evidence since this is an example of a clear distrtion. And note that Finkelstein himself doesn't say this would have been built by Ahab but says that Ussishkin thought this was Ahab's palace. So it is high-level propaganda, the power of suggestion to lead you to unsubstantiated suppositions.

    So getting back to the 70 years of desolation of the land or whether or not there was some continued or partial occupation during the desolation period, we need the precise details of the cities and research involved with drawing to these conclusions because, as you can see above, archaeologists don't always follow the Biblical details nor are aware of them.

    Another embarrassing example is that of Ami Mazar who is digging in the city of David.

    Here is a typical quote attributed to Mazar:

    "The findings suggest that the structure was actually part of the same city wall the Bible says Nehemiah rebuilt, Mazar said. The Book of Nehemiah gives a detailed description of construction of the walls, destroyed earlier by the Babylonians."

    The problem here is that Ezra 4:11,12 clearly shows the walls were completed even before the temple was. The description in Nehemiah about his "rebuilding" the walls was thus repair work on the new walls already rebuilt just 16 years after the return. Nehemiah's work only took a mere 52 days! So in fact, Mazar, an archaeologist, thinks that Nehemiah describes the rebuilding of the walls left destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar, even though this is long after the temple would have been rebuilt. The temple was completed in the 6th year of Darius. Nehemiah's 52-day repair work was done in the 20th of Artaxerxes. Thus we'd have to presume that Mazar thinks that the Jews rebuilt the city without a wall, leaving the temple without protection until Nehemiah came and threw up a quickie wall in 52 days. That's not what the Bible says. So Mazar might be a great archaeologist, but is a poor Biblical historian, and is making false presumptions about when the wall would have been rebuilt, though a period of 20 years or so probably wouldn't be archaeologically significant. Still, this demonstrates, like Ussishkin, how they are not following the Bible specifically enough to be effective scholars in the field when it comes to the interpretation of their work.

    So in CONCLUSION, at this time, we have at least one confirmed archaeological site at Ashkelon that supports the 70-80 years of total desolation described in the Bible. This at least circumstantially challenges the shortened NB Period secular chronology now in place, though supports the Biblical and Josephus timelines that is 26 years longer, allowing the destruction to occur by the 23rd year of Nebuchadnezzar and still remain desolate 70 years by the 1st of Cyrus, that is, between 525 and 455 BCE. There have been comments, some I've read myself, claiming some cities were continuously occupied in the region, suggesting a contradiction. But so far the specifics of this claim have not come forward to check against which archaeologists are making this claim and on what basis.

    So until such evidence actually is vetted, we have to presume no critical archaeological evidence contradicts the 70-year destruction throughout the northern and southern kingdoms after the 23rd year of Nebuchadnezzar. If such evidence shows up and it seems to be valid, like the lack of any evidence the Israelites were trekking through the wilderness for 40 years, then we'll have to deal with that. That's not absolute proof but it is out there as a challenge of archaeology vs the Bible. So we'll have to see. But for now, this continuous occupation in the region is just an unsubstantiated rumor we've tried to confirm but have not yet.

    Thank you, Doug, for your information. Cyrus was said to release many nations in exile in his first year to rebuild the land. There is nothing in the Bible that indicates those opposing the Jews were not new settlers recently released, therefore, ther eis also no true historical reference that there were people in that specific region around Judea that I can confirm.

    Thank you, again, for helping explore this detail.

    LS

  • Doug Mason
    Doug Mason

    Behemot,

    I have tried to locate a copy of Barstad's work, but without success. Are you able to point me in the direction I should take?

    Doug

  • Larsinger58
    Larsinger58

    Beh:

    A good book discussing this issue is: Hans M. BARSTAD, The Myth of the Empty Land: A Study in the History and Archaeology of Judah during the “Exilic” Period, Symbolae Osloenses, fasc. suppl., 28, Oslo, Scandinavian University Press 1996.

    Behemot

    Sounds promising. If you can give us some quotes or indicate the cities involved maybe we can getting something specific here.

    Thanks!!

    I'm vaguely recalling that I read something about continued occupation in an article about Mizpah in "BAR". So I know it's been discussed, but that has been a while back. But we would need to thoroughly investigate it.

    LS

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    Another important book on the subject is Judah and the Judeans in the Neo-Babylonian Period, ed. by Oded Lipschits and Joseph Blenkinsopp (2003).

    It is important to recognize that the situation in urban centers like Jerusalem and Ashkelon (which were indeed uninhabited or drastically depopulated during the exilic period) was not representative of the land as a whole. There is a good deal of evidence that agricultural communities in the land of Benjamin (and the town of Mizpah, which served as an administrative center) remained relatively unchanged through the Neo-Babylonian period. The Babylonians were not likely to have ignored the agricultural bounty in the lands they conquered and this fits pretty well with what was stated in 2 Kings 25:12 and Jeremiah 39:10, 52:16.

  • behemot
    behemot

    The book is out of print according to Amazon.

    A few reviews are available here: http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P3-27412357.html (accessed through a free trial membership) and here: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_go2081/is_1_120/ai_n28780154/

    You can search the libraries where the book is available using www.worldcat.org

    The same author deals with the topic of the "empty land myth" in his collection of essays History and the Hebrew Bible. Studies in Ancient Israelite and Ancient Near Eastern Historiography (Eisenbrauns 2008), Chapter 6.

    Hope this helps.

    Behemot

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    Among the discoveries at Neo-Babylonian-era Mizpah:

    • Substantial building (four-room Israelite houses) and pottery remains in Stratum 2 that indicate continuity between the end of Iron II and the bulk of the Persian period; all belong to a single stratum without a break in continuity.
    • Three Babylonian-style bathtub-shaped coffins at places where building remains were found in Stratum 2, and located near the buildings indicative of Mesopotamian instead of Israelite burial practices.
    • A bronze circlet displaying an Akkadian cuneiform inscription.
    • An ostracon bearing an inscription written in Hebrew characters of a Babylonian name (Mar-Sharri-Usur).
    • A significant number of Babylonian-era "Mozah" jar handles which correspond to others in a distribution largely limited to the land of Benjamin. According to neutron activation analysis, the clay comes from the Jerusalem area and Mozah is the name of a town in Benjamin to the west of Jerusalem. The majority (63%) of the jars were found at Mizpah, suggesting that this town was the primary destination of these jars, probably containing wine produced at Mozah which was consumed predominantly by the local elite at Mizpah. The "Mozah" jars appear to be later the LMLK-stamped jars of the pre-exilic period and earlier than the Yehud-stamped jars of the post-exilic period (in Gibeon, which was abandoned c. 500 BC, it is significant that Mozah handles and no Yehud handles were found, whereas in the case of Jerusalem and Ramat Rahel, the great majority of handles were later and were stamped with Yehud).
    • A seal impression probably belonging to Stratum 2 bearing the name of Ja'azaniah, a military officer at Mizpah (2 Kings 25:23, Jeremiah 40:8).

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