If You Leave The Organization Where Else Must You Go?

by minimus 52 Replies latest jw friends

  • freydo
    freydo

    "The feeling of uneasiness and insecurity, if not bound by the chains of some sect, is general. It is begotten of the false idea, first promulgated by Papacy, that membership in an earthly organization is essential, pleasing to the Lord and necessary to everlasting life. These earthly, humanly organized systems, so different from the simple, unfettered associations of the days of the apostles, are viewed involuntarily and almost unconsciously by Christian people as so many Heaven Insurance Companies, to some one of which money, time, respect, etc., must be paid regularly, to secure heavenly rest and peace after death. Acting on this false idea, people are almost as nervously anxious to be bound by another sect, if they step out of one, as they are if their policy of insurance has expired, to have it renewed in some respectable company."

    Hence it is that we sometimes see an honest, truth-hungry child of God gradually progressing from one denomination to another, as a child passes from class to class in a school. If he be in the Church of Rome, when his eyes are opened, he gets out of it, probably falling into some branch of the Methodist or Presbyterian systems. If here his desire for truth be not entirely quenched and his spiritual senses stupefied with the spirit of the world, you may a few years after find him in some of the branches of the Baptist <PAGE 186> system; and, if he still continues to grow in grace and knowledge and love of truth, and into an appreciation of the liberty wherewith Christ makes free, you may by and by find him outside of all human organizations, joined merely to the Lord and to his saints, bound only by the tender but strong ties of love and truth, like the early Church."

    Cor. 6:15,17`; `Eph. 4:15,16`
    http://bibletoday.com/V3/volumethree_S06.htm

  • GLTirebiter
    GLTirebiter

    Much to the Ex's consternation, I didn't need to go anywhere at all. I Can go wherever I choose to, whenever I choose to, and that never was and never will be to a Kingdom Hall. If and when I choose to "go somewhere" it will be because I feel it is the right place for me to be, not because somebody in Brooklyn said everybody has to go somewhere. "Not all who wander are lost."

    GLT

  • AllTimeJeff
    AllTimeJeff

    This is a strawman argument of the Governing Body. They already assume that they have proved every other religion false, primarily because they say so. And of course, they use the verse attributed to Jesus, where he was really referring to himself, not a group.

    The premise is wrong. There are all sorts of places to go. Like anywhere other then a KH on a Tuesday, Thursday night or Sunday and notice all the other happy, healthy people. Notice how they don't have horns encouraging you to worship Satan.

    The obvious answer is: go wherever you see a path. If there is no path, create one.

  • Scully
    Scully

    It's funny how JWs misrepresent the actual bible quotation when they say "where" else is there to go... in fact, the bible quotation has Simon Peter saying: "Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life." (John 6:68, NWT)

    Anything to insert the WTS into the personal relationships that people have with their creator. Anything to come between believers and the god they believe in.

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    Obviously, if anyone leaves the organization, they must go to either a bar or a pornography story, or both.

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free

    Only a person who is truly empty needs to belong to anything.

    W

  • flipper
    flipper

    I just tell them - I don't have to go anywhere ! I'm already here ! I've got a free thinking mind that is able to think, reason, and draw sane conclusions on important matters in life. My wife and I are loving, kind people who have friends and try to make a positive imp[act on people's lives ! So I just tell JW's " We are happy " being ourselves ! LOL! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    This is a strawman argument of the Governing Body. They already assume that they have proved every other religion false, primarily because they say so. And of course, they use the verse attributed to Jesus, where he was really referring to himself, not a group.

    Technically speaking, I think this is best categorized as a "false dilemma" argument. Only two options are presented to a person, that of being in "the truth" or being out inside Satans world. There are in fact many other opinions and ideas, but these are not considered. Straw man is more of a diversionary tactic.

    ~ Drew, of the "i'm not trying to be a jerk but can't help myself" class

  • AllTimeJeff
    AllTimeJeff

    Lol @ drew.... It's all good. I left my cheat sheet on the desk....

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    Anytime a JW asks me this I just ask them: "What do you mean?"

    I ask this because the question is vague and does not even reference what it is about. Most JWs do even know what the question is about.

    The question is only good for one thing: Triggering instinctive fear in humans of being socially isolated.

    It is a form of emotional manipulation. Not an expression of genuine concern.

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