The Great Crowd Don't Even Inherit the Earth.

by cantleave 31 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • e-watchman
    e-watchman
    First off you and our reader recognize this as reasoning straight from the WT. You, I and the readers need to realize the WT is not really interested in giving fact but factoids that support their already drawn conclusions.

    How about the use of common sense. You made a baseless statement that Paradise would not be so nice...too many people. What facts or even factoids did you offer? None. Zippo. Just an opinion. Nothing more.

    Second these figures are highly distorted as they don't take into account vast deserts and mountainous regions and presupposes god turning every square foot of dry land into a place where humans can live and cultivate for food without much room for anything else.

    No. The factoidial figures are not distorted. The earth has so many square miles of inhabitable space. Period. I think most people are smart enough to realize that there are deserts and mountainous regions. But there are people living right now in the most inhospitable regions of the earth. Eskimos live in the frozen north. Bedouins eke out an existence in the desert. And people live in mountainous areas. Even at that, Jehovah's word through the prophets states the the deserts will bloom. So, God intends to have man reclaim the earth and renovate it. That is what the kingdom is all about.

    Thirdly they go on the presumption that man has only been on this earth for six thousand years and so the resurrection figure is low balled to your 25 billion figure.

    No one knows how many people have lived and died. 25 billion may be a very liberal figure. Besides, the history of civilization only records 5,000 years of human existence. Anything beyond that it pure speculation. I merely used 25 billion as an example to show that your fears of an over populated earth are totally unfounded.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Robert,

    No one knows how many people have lived and died. 25 billion may be a very liberal figure. Besides, the history of civilization only records 5,000
    years of human existence. Anything beyond that it pure speculation. I merely used 25 billion as an example to show that your fears of an over
    populated earth are totally unfounded.

    I think you are misled by a factoid on this one, Robert. A more accurate statement would be that writing has only been around for about 5000 or 6000 yrs. Take a closer look act this factoid, and look at the facts for the evidence is substantial again don't go looking for evidence that is biased and supportive of your already pre drawn conclusions but what are the real facts unfettered by a need to prove some particulars thing about the bible.. Actually the fertile crescent was the starting place of civilization which the archaeological evidence shows it to be around 11,000 years ago 5000 yrs earlier than a literal interpretation of the bible would have us conclude.

    Robert you and I have been indoctrinated for years by biased literature from the WT. It took me awhile before I was able to take a better look at the facts and form a more accurate conclusion free from all the Wt's heavily laden ed BS I hope you too will eventually be able to do the same and snap out of this mental trance induced by years of BS from the WT.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Germs Guns & Steel one of the best documentaries on the net explaining a lot about how the world of mankind got to the point it is today I will include 18 parts. Starting @ part 3 gives a current understanding of the development of civilization of the fertile crescent.

    Germs Guns and Steel Part 1:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgnmT-Y_rGQ

    Germs Guns and Steel Part 2:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se-ina_bhJ0&feature=related

    Germs Guns and Steel Part 3:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hxHZPdH690&feature=related

    Germs Guns and Steel Part 4:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRG7-282QXM&feature=related

    Germs Guns and Steel Part 5:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0edh5Itvhy8&feature=related

    Germs Guns and Steel Part 6:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBHs_1_xCN8&feature=related

    Germs Guns and Steel Part 7:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuD4vchi3ho&feature=related

    Germs Guns and Steel Part 8:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQkuJ-dobIo&feature=related

    Germs Guns and Steel Part 9:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64UHLVip3uY&feature=related

    Germs Guns and Steel Part 10:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzos4IddtIk&feature=related

    Germs Guns and Steel Part 11:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udtBpQpmcYk&feature=related

    Germs Guns and Steel Part 12:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt5g-1DtVL0&feature=related

    Germs Guns and Steel Part 13:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC76ywLyBvE&feature=related

    Germs Guns and Steel Part 14:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxSoJrVum0c&feature=related

    Germs Guns and Steel Part 15:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52WgIDa4TUs&feature=related

    Germs Guns and Steel Part 16:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znpG7uzwyrU&feature=related

    Germs Guns and Steel Part 17:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5HBKJwViaM&feature=related

    Germs Guns and Steel Part 18 last:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqsizNMI6g8&feature=related

  • e-watchman
    e-watchman

    Scientifically this 6,000 yrs thing is easily proven wrong as the evidence is massive so as to be laughable to any seriously minded person interested in really checking out the facts which I would like to suggest you do, and do it without prejudice and with an open mind unfettered by years of indoctrination you have received from the WT organization.

    People of the world are indoctrinated in all sorts of nonsense, propaganda and lies. The errors of the WT are relatively benign compared to the mass of BS the world has been fed.

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    The errors of the WT are relatively benign compared to the mass of BS the world has been fed.

    The WT spouts enormous heaps of BS but its sphere of influence is relatively small. It does however have an enormous impact on those few, much of it is detrimental to them leading a meaningful and fulfilled life and can put their lives at risk. Think of the 1000's who have died the WTS because they have refused life saving medical treatment. Think of the Bros's and Sisters in Malawi who were persecuted unnecessarily, because of an arbitary decision by the GB. That makes the error of the WTS dangerous and not benign.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Robert

    People of the world are indoctrinated in all sorts of nonsense, propaganda and lies. The errors of the WT are relatively benign compared to
    the mass of BS the world has been fed.

    Well I would say yes and no to that in that order.

    You seem like a guy that wants to know truth, at least that's the impression I have of you I could be wrong but I like to think I'm not. Hey just watch that videos I posted starting at part 3 and perhaps 4&5 if you got the time and interest,,I think in time you can shake this negative view of science that has been indoctrinated in you from the Wt which makes one feel that scientist are the bad guys out to mislead us away from god and the bible into a more reasonable understanding of what science and archeology are all about and what they are telling us about things.

  • e-watchman
    e-watchman
    you seem like a guy that wants to know truth, at least that's the impression I have of you I could be wrong but I like to think I'm not. Hey just watch that videos I posted starting at part 3 and perhaps 4&5 if you got the time and interest,,I think in time you can shake this negative view of science that has been indoctrinated in you from the Wt which makes one feel that scientist are the bad guys out to mislead us away from god and the bible into a more reasonable understanding of what science and archeology are all about and what they are telling us about things.

    I don't have a negative view of science. I love science. Science can teach us a lot about God. I just do not put my faith in the interpretations of the history of the earth that some scientists put forward as the truth. They are just speculations. You want to sell that stuff as TRUTH? I ain't buying.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Robert,

    I just do not put my faith in the interpretations of the history of the earth that some scientists put forward as the truth. They are just speculations.
    You want to sell that stuff as TRUTH? I ain't buying.

    Well the interpretation that scientists put forward is based on a lot more evidence than provided by a bunch of ancient writing based on superstitious fear and ignorance. The evidence is pretty impressive in the logical fact finding favor of science as opposed to religious writings of the ancient superstitious.

    If you could get a scale and weigh the evidence of facts it would not just lean a little in favor of science. You should try to do that sometime, just be concerned about finding out what is true regardless of where it takes you and don't try to force it in the direction of your many years of indoctrination( much harder than it sounds).

    It is hard for us to do it,, it was hard for me,, but once i did the whole house of cards built up by the WT indoctrination system came crashing down. Which to be sure was somewhat scary, but at the same time it opened me up to a much better understanding of the world free from superstition of a fearful jealous hard to please deity.

  • jehovahsheep
    jehovahsheep

    lets keep in mind e-watchman that the great crowd was an invention of freddy franz and approved by the czar rutherford in 1935 when ct russells harvest of the gospel age was now over 20 years past his 40 year prediction.wt theology is nothing more than hogwash .

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    Sons of God are the only special children of Israel. (Jacob was named Isreal, if you recall.)

    Jacob entered into covenant agreement when the angel struck his thigh. (The thigh is a delicate word for reproductive organs. This smacks of genetic experimentation, does it not? )

    Not all Jews are children of Israel. Not all of Jacobs children are called Sons of God.

    Gentiles do not have children. They have kids. When they tell the story, we are the 'goats'.

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