Can I see your invitation? Can I see your birth certificate?

by What-A-Coincidence 62 Replies latest jw friends

  • freydo
    freydo

    Vattel's Law of Nations and the Founding Fathers
    Nobarack08 ^ | Nov 30, 2009 | syc1959

    Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 4:41:03 PM by syc1959

    Vattel was the key in the United States Constitution in determining the Article 2 Natural Born Citizen clause. Here is a list of the references used by John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and George Washington in regards to Vattel’s Law of Nations. This should dispel any notion that the Founding Fathers did not use the Law of Nations as their guide.

    Read the list off my blog. Contains references from John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, and the Ratification.

    A natural Born Citizen is a person born in country to parents who are citizens. Per Vattel

    The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights... The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.

    (Excerpt) Read more at nobarack08.wordpress.com ...

  • VM44
    VM44

    Why can't a birth certificate be produced?

    Were complete records not kept in Hawaii during the 1960's?

  • drwtsn32
    drwtsn32
    Why can't a birth certificate be produced?

    It was. LONG ago.

    And as others correctly point out, the issue is moot anyway. His mother was a US citizen -- he could have been born on Mars and still be considerd a US citizen.

  • DaCheech
    DaCheech

    you can be any position in the us with a regular citizenship.................. but, to be president you have to be a natural born citizen.

  • Snoozy
    Snoozy

    Fredo wrote a book...

  • freydo
    freydo

    "Why can't a birth certificate be produced?

    Were complete records not kept in Hawaii during the 1960's?"

    Because Barry Soetoro aka B Hussein Obama has spent upwards of a couple million $$$$ in legal fees keeping that information and his school records from ever seeing the light of day. And the politicized, money grubbing judicial system along with the mainstream press are too cowardly to rock the boat that would create a mega constitutional crisis, perhaps invalidating the 2008 election, not to mention the racial fallout and all the legislation signed into law in the past two years. And if anybody thinks that making idiotic remarks is going to make the problem go away, then they are fools.

    The only thing that's at stake is the covenant that the people have with their government. And if that covenant no longer matters, well.....turn out the lights and look what happened to Israel. And hey how many more TSA agents do we need?...

  • freydo
  • freydo
    freydo

    Rush: Trump's Birth Certificate Outcry Is Service to Everyone

    Friday, 25 Mar 2011 10:15 AM

    By Dave Eberhardt

    Share: More . . . A A | Email Us | Print | Forward Article 1 digg Rush Limbaugh entered the renewed fray over President Barack Obama's birth certificate by declaring that Donald Trump’s continued public outcry over the documentation is “a valuable service," not only to the public but also to Obama personally.

    "The reason I have a little doubt, just a little, is because he grew up and nobody knew him," Trump had remarked famously to ABC News. The potential presidential contender followed up his theme on Wednesday’s “The View,” again on the ABC Network.

    During an interview with Newsmax Thursday, Trump restated his questions on the issue.

    On "The View," a morning chat program, Trump declared that he believed Obama has a birth certificate, but that he should produce it to the world, ending the speculation that seems to never go away. Trump added that he felt it strange that "nobody from [Obama's] early years remembers him."

    There’s "something on that birth certificate that he doesn't like," Trump opined to the cast members, including Whoopi Goldberg and Barbara Walters, who berated him, accusing him of possibly racist thoughts on the issue.

    On Limbaugh’s show Thursday, the radio talker Limbaugh sided with Trump’s beating of the birth certificate drum. "You and I have known all along that we're dealing with a man-child here who has, literally, no qualifications, no experience, and according to Donald Trump now, no birth certificate," Limbaugh declared.

    Rush Limbaugh, Donald Trump, Obama, birth certificate
    Rush Limbaugh: Donald Trump's giving the president a chance to explain. (Getty Images Photo)
    "Trump is performing a valuable service here. He is attempting to help Obama out of a jam. You can't say Trump is a kook right-wing birther. Trump realized the problem that Obama faces here with credibility. He's giving him a chance here to establish some credibility by producing the birth certificate,” Limbaugh added.

    Charging that elements of the major media were "covering it up" and "papering it over," he concluded: “Trump's not the kind of guy to comb over difficulties. If he's going to bring this up . . . you know that it's serious." Read more on Newsmax.com: Rush: Trump's Birth Certificate Outcry Is Service to Everyone

  • ohiocowboy
    ohiocowboy

    Unfortunately, by the time the next election rolls around, there will have been enough time to forge a fraudulent document that will look so real and pass the "Sniff test" well enough that people will not be able to tell the difference from a real one, thereby "proving" that it is "Real". It is sad that people will buy it hook, line and sinker.

  • designs
    designs

    Rush- 'Trump's not the kind of guy to comb over difficulties'

    One Fruit Cake patting another Fruit Cake on the behind.........

    It will take the GOP/Tea Partiers a Billion Bucks to unseat the President. Oh this is going to be a fun Presidential election....

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