by HappyGuy 35 Replies latest jw friends
If we the worldlies knew what goes on, many of us would help you out. So, if you, my reader, are a lurker, please know that we're not out there to take advantage of you. We will help you if you put enough trust in us, and if you tear down that wall that separates you from us and let us into your hearts.
I agree. "Worldly" people saved my life by helping, no, insisting that I get the authorities involved to protect me from my abusive jw husband.
I'd have went back if not for the kindness of "worldly's".
lisa
To put it simply, as a bunch of retards. In fact if you have "wordly" friends they probably think you being a wintess at some stage is just another of your jokes, and can't for the life of them figure out how come you ever got invloved or why you even talk about that for more than a sentence or two while having a beer.
Many people who are non-witnesses are really starting to view Jehovah's Witnesses as a dangerous mind control cult- which they are. An awakening of sorts is happening with many informed people due to the internet and those who have NOT informed themselves many times DON'T KNOW about Jehovah's Witnesses. My wife didn't know a thing about them until we started dating and she researched on the internet. She just used to think they were friendly people who called occasionally at your door peddling religion. She knows different NOW ! LOL! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
Mister Flipper said:
Many people who are non-witnesses are really starting to view Jehovah's Witnesses as a dangerous mind control cult- which they are. An awakening of sorts is happening with many informed people due to the internet and those who have NOT informed themselves many times DON'T KNOW about Jehovah's Witnesses.
Exactly! Most folks think JW's are very nice (but just a bit odd and keep to themselves.) I have taken it upon myself to inform folks of the TRUTH about the (T)ruth every chance I get. I try to be very delicate when talking to the family who is still in... I am much less subtle when talking to unsuspecting folks who know nothing about them.
You and me both Sister Baba ! I too take every opportunity to inform people about this cult as well to make sure they are informed. I am very assertive i informing non-witnesses, like you much more careful around JW relatives
Most folks think JW's are very nice (but just a bit odd and keep to themselves.)
That's what I thought once: that they were a bit peculiar, annoying on Saturday mornings, but basically moral people and quite harmless. I figured, "Hey, I'm peculiar in my own ways and a bit annoying at times, so I have no reason to complain and it's no big deal". That was then.
Only when it was too late did I learn that the "harmless" part was true for most individual witnesses, but was not at all true of the organization as a whole. I learned about the blood issue ("how could I be so naive to not know that", he says in hindsight). I learned about the shunning and other manipulations emotional blackmail used to control the believers, the "studies", and others the group touched (including me). I learned what those smiling faces said about us "worldlies" behind closed doors, and how that attitude was not the individuals' conclusions but rather a core teaching of the organization.
That brought me to what I think now: that the individual members are indeed mostly moral, well-meaning people, but they are under the control of a dangerous cult with deranged leaders.
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Think about this: the doctor who treats my ills has to be licensed. The dentist who takes care of my teeth has to be licensed. The lawyer who handled my divorce has to be licensed. The contractor who built my house has to be licensed. The barber who cuts my hair has to be licensed. But anybody can start a cult and call it a religion, they need only to have the charisma that induces others to follow them. Pyramidologist, pulp sci-fi author, it doesn't matter: if you have what it takes to convince people to follow, you too can be The Enlightened One.
That's how I view the Watchtower leaders.
GLT
carpediem, I would like to point out that the "worldlies" who are shunning you are not typical worldy people. They sound like they're religious fanatics every bit as loony as the JWs.
While attending college I was in an honors biology class and while visiting the professor in his office he said, "I hope this doesn't come across as too blunt, but I don't find Jehovah's Witnesses to be too intellectual. You're the first I've met who actually thinks about matters." I told him that it was because I was on my way out. (I was inactive at the time but attending still). He had no use for the JW students because they were so programmed against any rational view of science. W.Once
Most of the people I talk to have no clue whatsoever about jw's. If anything they may know about the no blood or no flag thing and possibly no holidays but that's about it. For all the so called preaching work not one person I have run into knows squat about what the jw's actually believe and teach. Start informing them about the no blood, pedophile rules, shunning, etc..... and they stand there with their jaw on the floor saying over and over 'oh that sounds like a cult!'. If they are religious people themselves and start asking about biblical things again they just keep saying how cult like the jw's are.
Carpdiem, perhaps the non jw's who 'shunned' you were simply tired of you preaching at them? I know people that have tried to get my jw to stop preaching at them and trying to convert them in every nice way possible, he just couldn't take the hint. Finally the person had to say 'I don't want to hear any more of that shit!!!!!!' sorry for the language but it was what the person said and it was the only way to make my new zealous jw stop.
Contrary to what jw's think, most people don't give them a thought until they annoy them on Sat morning and even then once they successfully get rid of the jw's there is no more thought about them. Just some whacko's at the door trying to sell you something.
One thing ALL non jw's that I have spoken to about jw's do think is that every man & woman who come to their door are married, every adult with a child is the parent of that child or if older they think it is a grandparent, young adult with a child? they think it is a sibling. They have no clue about fs and that the people knocking are not related. That in itself annoys me, my jw goes around the town we live in and 'pretends' to have different wives and kids. ah well, maybe in the 'new system' he will get his wish huh? As a side note; the non jw's think that is just creepy. They are surprised to see little girls or boys with adults who are not their parents and are surprised that a man & woman who are not spouses are apparently passing themselves off as if they are. Introducing the person as 'my friend x' , they just don't believe. In my experience, people simply do not trust door to door religious/cult salesmen.
