Do you believe God has one true organization on earth?

by 2pink 30 Replies latest jw friends

  • Sad emo
    Sad emo

    No.

    Firstly Jesus said "Follow me" - not "Follow such-and-such an organisation" For all the WT boasting about being like the first Christians whom they see as a united, happy bunch, they see it wrong - you only have to look at the New Testament Acts and the letters to see that - the jewish Christians fell out with the gentile Christians, the apostles disagreed with each other, the gnostics had their own ideas too, the Christians went for certain leaders (1 Corinthians 1: 10-17). I could go on but I won't lol! It's just to make the point that the early Christians weren't half as organised and united as the WTS makes them out to be!

    And guess what? In spite of all the falling out, Christianity survived in all its forms, warts and all! Its God that holds us together, not an earthly organisation.

    Secondly, John 4:

    19"Sir," the woman said, "I can see that you are a prophet. 20 Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem."

    21 Jesus declared, "Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."

    Rephrase slightly!:

    19"Sir," the woman said, "I can see that you are a prophet. 20 Our fathers worshiped in a church, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in the Kingdom Hall."

    21 Jesus declared, "Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither in a church nor in the Kingdom Hall. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."

    True worship isn't reliant on any organisation - it's between God and the individual. The Christian lives a life of worship - it's not just about saying the 'right' prayers, doing 'stuff', reading the 'right' books or following a set of rules, its simply about living and moving in God's will, not man's.

  • parakeet
    parakeet

    Even if one accepts the idea of God, the belief that he would choose just a special few on earth is preposterous. I've looked into and read about a lot of religions over the years, and not one has an irrefutable dogma or morally superior people.

    If you do believe it, there's a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you. Right next to the WTBTS, incidentally.

  • LockedChaos
    LockedChaos

    NO

    Who has one??

    Where?

    Here??

    No!!

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    Yes. I think it's the Rosicrucians....or maybe the Scientologists

    But I could be wrong.

    It might be the Watchtower Society.

    But I kinda doubt it.

  • agonus
    agonus

    Yep, "organization" doesn't even appear in the NWT. Neither does "channel" or "religion".

  • Gordy
    Gordy

    Speaking as a Christian - No

  • xeracia
    xeracia

    It's the church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

  • Lillith26
    Lillith26
    True worship isn't reliant on any organisation - it's between God and the individual. The Christian lives a life of worship - it's not just about saying the 'right' prayers, doing 'stuff', reading the 'right' books or following a set of rules, its simply about living and moving in God's will, not man's.

    I'd only change one word of this- Christian to Believer... other than that- my thoughts exactly

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    for those who believe in god,....

    Well, even though you disqualified me, I will say something.

    If God had a single organization on earth, would he make it so hard to identify it? I mean, the WTS uses cult methods to convince people that they are the one, but they send people out in a nearly fruitless effort of preaching. The preachers are laughable. The preachers do not go out in a work in Muslim countries by any large measures.

    But is there really any organization that is not laughable and truly reaches worldwide? I think only Coca-Cola does that, but it just rots your teeth and contributes to diabetes.

    Maybe God uses a transvestite who reveals all through a minor discussion forum on the internet.

  • AggieNostic
    AggieNostic

    I dont know if there is a god or not... but it seems that if there is a god, an all knowing, all powerful, loving god... if he desired us to serve him in one specific way - then he would tell us.

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