You guys would understand: How do you do this Festivus/Christmas crap (page 2)

beksbks

beks, you're looking lovely today (new avatar)...

I know! Look at the size of that brain! And Burn calls me stupid, hmph.

Yes, individual choice allows me the freedom to point out the illogic of sacrificing a plant to celebrate the winter solstice

Ohhhh clever sparring, I love it!

Many of these trees come from farms, and wouldn't be planted if not for the holiday (is that my individual choice allowing me to rationalize it?). It smells soooo wonderful. I only use soft white lights on it, and it's got ornaments that came from my very first christmas when I was 20 years old. Then there are all the ones that have been given to me over the years by friends and family, and of course the ones my children made in school, some with their little pictures in them, and now the ones they have given me as adults. Every year when I unpack the box and start putting them on, I am awash in memories.

Then there's the hot cocoa with Baileys!

saywhat29

UC: the problem is I feel like I have to work at the last minute to get folks stuff who've gotten me stuff because I never planned on doing it and am spending a little over my budet because of it. I want them to know that I care about them because I do and I *could* get them gifts and I feel a little selfish becaue I haven't and never thought about it either.

again I rarely got gifts so I have this nasty selfhish habits of buying myself gifts. I'm not saying my family never got me anything bcause they did but I've always treated myself on my birthdays and around this time... am I the only one?

Thetrueone: It's not that it's a religious holday, its the fact that people around me who I care about have gotten me something and I haven't thought about them when I could have. I'm not offended since I got something I really liked and another gift I really needed. And I just want to say thank you and feel kinda wkward since I'm not use to it or how to go about it now.

HappyGuy: I'm not worried or losing my mind about it but it's just one of those things I feel I should know that I don't. It's like driving stick shift... I should 'know' how to drive stick shift in my mind but I can't. Don't know why that is but that's how I feel. And I shouldn't be at my age trying to figure out something simple that children easily understand.

dissed

The trees being wasted? Weak arguement UC lol

Tree farms yes, of course.

Were we live, the US Govt. sells you a permit for $5 to cut a tree. They reason why? We are doing our part to thin the trees for fire protection and promoting a healthy forest. They will cut and burn them if we don't.

Elsewhere

> I can't wrap to save my life.

Just get one of those decorative bags, put the gift in it, and then stuff the wrapping paper in the top.

saywhat29

LOL, elsewhere thats what I usually do but the women around me say how cheap and unfun that bag is compared to a wrapped one.

ballistic

OK well, I'm not sure if you're a man or a woman, but if you are a bloke, you are going to find the whole thing of buying presents and cards real difficult anyway.

Don't worry too much about wrapping as you'll only look GAY if you've manged to wrap everything perfectly.

Secondly, save all the crappy secret santa gifts you get this year, stick em under the bed and give them out to office workers you don't really like in next years xmas party.

Finally, just remember that after a few years, you too will be sick and tired of the commercialism and greed which has stolen christs name for it's own ends, the same crappy stuff all the supermarkets are selling over the odds and the mad rush everyone is in to get no-where fast saying "can't wait tell it's over."

Merry Christmas.

saywhat29

Well, seeing as I am GAY (I'm glad you capitalized the word since it describes my gay in the awesomeness in which it is)

Its not difficult to buy stuff for people but I just wanna know the limits- if you get me something and its way more expensive than what I bought you if that a problem and do folks usually hold it against you? I buy you an expensive watch you get a tie that was on sale at Target.. is that a problem and will it affects my gift next year? ;-)

I don't feel as though this holiday is going to absorb me as all that decorating crap is work and on a holiday I wanna relax... but maybe. if I end up with some guy whose big on it and he's doing all the major stuff then I'll go along with it.

But otherwise *shrugs*

undercover

Many of these trees come from farms, and wouldn't be planted if not for the holiday

The trees being wasted? Weak arguement ... Tree farms yes, of course.

Tree farms, schmee farms...

You're right beks, those trees are planted only for xmas use. Wouldn't it be better to plant something that could actually be useful other than just cutting and propping in the corner of the living room?

All that acreage going to grow trees that are going to end up on the side of the road for city crews to pick up on Jan 2nd when grape vines could be grown instead. Just think of the increase in wine production...

undercover, of the true spirit of xmas class

dissed

UC

When Thursday evening rolls around, and if you are awakened by some ugly, tall ghost-like guy. Who goes by the name of 'The Spirit of Christmas Past' and he wants you to go with him, I suggest you go. It could be fun.

If he identifies himself as the 'Spirit of your JW Past' then tell him to go to hell and then go back to sleep.

chickpea

the thing i tell my kids is to
find what is meaningful to
THEM about the holiday
season and make it personal!

it can vary from year to year
how involved or uninvolved
they/ i choose to be....

i think it distasteful to EXPECT gifts...
the giving of gifts? no problem there
as long as the recipient is under no
obligation to reciprocate based on
some contrived notion that getting
a gift means a gift is owed.... in my
thinking the potlatch expresses a
saner sentiment than xmas gifting....

You guys would understand: How do you do this Festivus/Christmas crap

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