If the elders knew she was celebrating Christ's birth every day, she'd be in a committee by now.
I overheard a nauseating conversation . . .
by 144001 37 Replies latest jw friends
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blondie
Reminds me of how jws say that they can give presents everyday. I received a wrapped present with a card from a jw once in my life (and it was not a jw relative).
*** g93 11/22 p. 8 "We Are Not Deprived!" ***As a youth I have never felt bitter about missing the celebrations of worldly holidays. I have not been told by my parents that ‘you can’t do this or that because you’re one of Jehovah’s Witnesses,’ but I have been familiarized with the Bible and Jehovah’s views on these holidays. As for gifts, in our house, gift-giving is all year long."—Ryan, age 17.
"I’m going into fifth grade and I’m not sad to admit that I am one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. One time a boy said to me that I must feel bad because I didn’t get any gifts at Christmas, but I said I get gifts all year. Then he said I was lucky. I think there should not be a Jehovah’s Witness who feels sorry about being a Jehovah’s Witness."—Jeff, age 10.
"Instead of having Christmas or any other holiday, we have Big Toys Day. We get a gift of money to spend on anything we like. One year I gave a speech to my class about my religion. Instead of following the world’s path, I set my own path to make the meetings, go out in field service, and make prayer part of my life. I am getting baptized this coming assembly."—George, age 11.
"I love to get presents, and I do receive them all through the year. I’m not missing much when it comes to parties. I’m making Jehovah happy when I take a stand for the truth. It’s amusing to see some of my classmates who aren’t Christian, who are Hindu, Jewish, and so forth, celebrate Christmas and get gifts yet do not know what the holiday is all about."—Julia, age 12.
"I don’t have to wait for a special day to get presents. My mom and dad get me plenty of toys all the time. Halloween is the worship of dead spirits. It’s not right. The only God we should worship is Jehovah."—Nicholas, age 6.
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kurtbethel
So Blondie, evidently JWs buy their children off so they do not feel like they are missing out on Christmas. This demonstrates that JWs are hypercommercialized about the matter of gift giving. I wonder if whoever wrote those (probably fake) accounts really thought it through about how that looks to people who are not enthralled by their propaganda.
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blondie
kurt, I was surprised at these comments even when I was still in in 1993. These are "experiences" much like the ones at the conventions/assemblies. They are rehearsed and "massaged" to fit their agenda.
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Robdar
144001, you are THE man!
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Mary
The next thing that was said was, "do you realize how despicable it is to condemn a holiday that is celebrated via the gathering of families together for family get togethers? You people are too cheap to celebrate anything, except the financial success of the cult that enslaves your mind."
That is priceless.
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Heaven
"you and Satan can enjoy your holidays together,"
"Merry Pantsmus to you to!"
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meangirl
My biggest problem with the whole thing is that I resent being told I CAN'T do something. I feel that celebrating holidays, birthdays, etc. should be a CONCSIOUS matter. If the society says voting, casinos, etc. are conscious matters then I feel the aforementioned should be too. I am not going to say all witness children receive gifts throughout the year but I make sure my daughter receives gifts. I think I am more conscious of it cause I wasn't a witness my whole life (THANK GOODNESS). I always made sure to have parties at least once a year and we make a huge deal about our anniversary and she receives a ton of gifts. She also receives numerous gifts throughout the year. They are wrapped and I make it a special event for her. If it were solely up to me I think I might celebrate CHristmas but hubby just can't bring himself to do it. He was a born in. However, I am torn because when I look at people's nasty attitude during this time of the year and the commercial aspect of it, it does make my stomach turn! Anyway, my point is that some witness children do receive gifts all through the year although I don't think it is the norm.
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WTWizard
They can say that all they want about children getting gifts all year. And it is bulls***. Most witless children rarely get any gifts from their parents.
I can remember distinctly a Grand Boasting Session I went to in 1995. There were a few children in a family, and by looking at the excitement they had with a Happy Meals binoculars, I wonder when the last time they got any real toys (trust me, the optics were crap. Though they did magnify the image by about 2 or 3 X, they were so distorted that I could not make out anything with them that I couldn't without them.) I actually believe that this situation is widespread--the major gifts they get are new clothes for the REJECT Jesus Party, new field circus bags, and logs about their theocraptic "milestones".
And no, they do not honor Jesus' birth, ever. They pay zero attention to it, except where they have to read the Bible in that section. Rather, they focus on Jesus' death, Paul's misinterpretation of Jesus, and all too much (for a Christian religion), the Old Testament examples. They only mention Jesus' birth around Christmas time when they are out in field circus, trying to bring householders into the cancer.
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tenyearsafter
We used to do a thing called "Present Day" right around the end of December, often very close to the 25th...in looking back, it was pretty feeble attempt to celebrate Christmas under a plain wrap name. Now that I can look back with a clear head, me thinks if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck!! JW's delude themselves into being different while still trying to be the same...
