100% doctrine for me, I could have gone along as a double lifer for years, no one would have known, but the lies and B/S spewed out week in week out killed me.
JWs don't leave the organization over doctrine
by doublelife 41 Replies latest watchtower bible
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jdhf
I agree with Sir Nose above... I am in the process of leaving after 17 years....raising my daughters in Catholic Ireland, amid great persecution from schoolmates, teachers, principals, friends, family etc. People tend to 'leave' over doctrinal issues. The service here is hard as you fight against hundreds of years of Catholic teachings. So many here are from divided homes and get persecution from mates.. what made it really hurtful for me is that I put up with all of this opposition as did my girls, and then i find out it's not really the truth at all. So, after embarrasing myself for all those years at the doors and standing up for the Witnesses all the time, what do I have left?? What do my kids have? My 12 year old was devestated when I told her I was leaving. She wanted to be baptized this year. She wants to know if the paradise is really coming and I don't knnow what the heck to tell her.. They both want to know why we forwent celebrating xmas and b/days etc., in a country where these things are REALLY celebrated, unnecessarily. I can't answer them. I no longer have any answers for them. I wonder how much I did think was true is still true.. and I have, at the tender age of 41, to start again. I know I can't follow a religion if so many prophecies, rules etc., are not bible based and I stand with that, but after you learn the truth isn't that.. do we have anything else? I know there are many here that are either angry, diffident, apathetic etc, but I'm still at angry, and sad too. It is a great tragedy to lose something you hold so precious, to find that nothing can replace it, at least not yet. I do believe in Jehovah and Jesus.. but that's all I have, and the shirt on my back.. don't even mention my fear at possibly losing those I hold dear in congs all over the world. A local priest happened to call round last night and he actually listened to me. He was sensitive and a genuine christian and had some good words of wisdom. He's right.. there are good people in all religions and that's what really matters.. so I choose not to totally lose my faith in humanity and plod along and hope i find a new cramped narrow road for my family not ruled by paralyzing doctrine and false hearts.. :)
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jdhf
I agree with Sir Nose above... I am in the process of leaving after 17 years....raising my daughters in Catholic Ireland, amid great persecution from schoolmates, teachers, principals, friends, family etc. People tend to 'leave' over doctrinal issues. The service here is hard as you fight against hundreds of years of Catholic teachings. So many here are from divided homes and get persecution from mates.. what made it really hurtful for me is that I put up with all of this opposition as did my girls, and then i find out it's not really the truth at all. So, after embarrasing myself for all those years at the doors and standing up for the Witnesses all the time, what do I have left?? What do my kids have? My 12 year old was devestated when I told her I was leaving. She wanted to be baptized this year. She wants to know if the paradise is really coming and I don't knnow what the heck to tell her.. They both want to know why we forwent celebrating xmas and b/days etc., in a country where these things are REALLY celebrated, unnecessarily. I can't answer them. I no longer have any answers for them. I wonder how much I did think was true is still true.. and I have, at the tender age of 41, to start again. I know I can't follow a religion if so many prophecies, rules etc., are not bible based and I stand with that, but after you learn the truth isn't that.. do we have anything else? I know there are many here that are either angry, diffident, apathetic etc, but I'm still at angry, and sad too. It is a great tragedy to lose something you hold so precious, to find that nothing can replace it, at least not yet. I do believe in Jehovah and Jesus.. but that's all I have, and the shirt on my back.. don't even mention my fear at possibly losing those I hold dear in congs all over the world. A local priest happened to call round last night and he actually listened to me. He was sensitive and a genuine christian and had some good words of wisdom. He's right.. there are good people in all religions and that's what really matters.. so I choose not to totally lose my faith in humanity and plod along and hope i find a new cramped narrow road for my family not ruled by paralyzing doctrine and false hearts.. :)
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jdhf
p.s. sorry for the double post!!
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SirNose586
No worries, you can agree with me two times over!
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jookbeard
jdhf, welcome from The Emerald Isle, good to have some of our Irish friends here.
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jdhf
thanks jookbeard....my mums from Lincoln and was raised CofE and hates ALL organised religion.. she's right.
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dgp
It is crystal-clear to me that this statement is meant to save face. Another way to put it would be "Yeah, people leave in flocks, but that's not because we have a false doctrine but because they are all scum. And you know this is true because we say so". It's also a subtle reminder that this is how the people close to you will think about you if you should ever leave.
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agonus
"Jehovah's Love" = "Good Standing in a Millerite Spinoff Cult." JDHF, Tell your daughter Paradise is here, now, on the Earth. That's what I plan to tell my kids. If she wants specifics, tell her the Garden of Eden is in Central Anatolia (Turkey). Seriously. I've found evidence for this far more convincing than anything the WT ever sold me. Hell, you can even show her - in one of the WT Bibles, and in the Insight books. They place it, I think, closer to upper Mesopotamia - but the point is, Paradise was on a map and it still is. Tell her you plan to take her there someday, so it WILL come in her lifetime. Let's see your wife dispute that hot potato with Scripture.
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Gregor
That's was the deal breaker (wishy washy doctrine) in my case but I think you may be correct with most defectors. Let's face it. I suspect that less than 15% of witnesses pay any attention to the constant, ham fisted, doctrinal churning by the not so nimble WTB&TS.