Dawkins: "Pat Robertson is the True Christian"

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  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    All the "problem of evil" lines of argumentation suffer from the same flaw, you only know what you know, not what an omniscient being would know.

    My post 3436 here:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/157852/1/22-000-Dead-So-Far-in-Myanmar

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  • hamilcarr
    hamilcarr

    And Osama is the true muslim

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    Now this is pretty silly:

    An atheist organization is blasting the U.S. Postal Service for its plan to honor Mother Teresa with a commemorative stamp, saying it violates postal regulations against honoring “individuals whose principal achievements are associated with religious undertakings.”

    The Freedom from Religion Foundation is urging its supporters to boycott the stamp — and also to engage in a letter-writing campaign to spread the word about what it calls the “darker side” of Mother Teresa.

    The stamp — set to be released on Aug. 26, which would have been Mother Teresa’s 100th birthday — will recognize the 1979 Nobel Peace Prize winner for her humanitarian work, the Postal Service announced last month.

    “Noted for her compassion toward the poor and suffering, Mother Teresa, a diminutive Roman Catholic nun and honorary U.S. citizen, served the sick and destitute of India and the world for nearly 50 years,” the Postal Service said in a press release. “Her humility and compassion, as well as her respect for the innate worth and dignity of humankind, inspired people of all ages and backgrounds to work on behalf of the world’s poorest populations.”

    But Freedom from Religion Foundation spokeswoman Annie Laurie Gaylor says issuing the stamp runs against Postal Service regulations.

    “Mother Teresa is principally known as a religious figure who ran a religious institution. You can’t really separate her being a nun and being a Roman Catholic from everything she did,” Gaylor told FoxNews.com.

    Postal Service spokesman Roy Betts expressed surprise at the protest, given the long list of previous honorees with strong religious backgrounds, including Malcolm X, the former chief spokesman for the Nation of Islam, and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., a Baptist minister and co-founder of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference.

    “In fact we honored Father Flanagan in 1986 for his humanitarian work. This has nothing to do with religion or faith,” Betts told FoxNews.com.

    Gaylor said the atheist group opposed Father Flanagan’s stamp but not those for King and Malcolm X, because she said they were known for their civil rights activities, not for their religion.

    Martin Luther King “just happened to be a minister,” and “Malcolm X was not principally known for being a religious figure,” she said.

    “And he’s not called Father Malcolm X like Mother Teresa. I mean, even her name is a Roman Catholic honorific.”

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  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    The FREEDOM FROM RELIGION crowd is a bit too leftist-hippie-radical to be of any interest to me. It seems they enjoy staging "street theater" events making mountains out of molehills. It doesn't bother me one bit if some group wants to display a manger in the state capitol building. It doesn't bother me one bit if the USPS wants to issue Mother Theresa stamps.

    There are better ways of countering the Mother Theresa stamps.

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    I worry about extremissim, I really do...

  • JWoods
    JWoods
    The FREEDOM FROM RELIGION crowd is a bit too leftist-hippie-radical to be of any interest to me. It seems they enjoy staging "street theater" events making mountains out of molehills. It doesn't bother me one bit if some group wants to display a manger in the state capitol building. It doesn't bother me one bit if the USPS wants to issue Mother Theresa stamps.
    There are better ways of countering the Mother Theresa stamps.

    Exactly - theorectically, these FREEDOM FROM RELIGION people have just about made non-religion into a religion of it's own. What I cannot understand is why they should even care if a mother Theresa stamp gets made - isn't it enough to just reject religion personally, rather than trying to control everybody else who believes in something like this? I would think that being Athiest or Agnostic would liberate a person into just not caring what other people believe - so long as they were not actually harming someone else (i.e. like a terrorist).

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    There are better ways of countering the Mother Theresa stamps.

    I wonders why they would need to be countered at all, actually. Someone has to be extremely sensitive to find this objectionable, it seems to me. The woman lived a life of service, and even if you don't agree with her religion or religion period, there is something admirable in that. She won a Nobel too, not that this means much anymore with some of the awards the last few years tarnishing the medal.

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  • VoidEater
    VoidEater

    not meaning to hijack the thread, but:

    I'll stop worrying about Mother Theresa on stamps when religion is well clear out of government.

  • JWoods
    JWoods
    I'll stop worrying about Mother Theresa on stamps when religion is well clear out of government.

    Pardon me, but I cannot see how making a stamp of a famous person is "religion in government".

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Christopher Hitchens is very articulate on the subject of these so-called "religious leaders" like Jerry Falwell and Mother Theresa, among others. In short, they are frauds.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52yTqMcwuQE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WQ0i3nCx60

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKkcDgeYBdk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGuzFUeDDgY

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