by african GB Member 15 Replies latest jw friends
I've always wondered how they keep track of all members,
like keeping a list and then scratching off those who pass away.
For example:
Bro Minimus
Bro Shamus
Bro Asilentone
Bro Bluesbrother
Bro Undercover
Bro AfricanGBmember
Bro so and so
note that in this 'mock list' of 144 000 members ONLY African GB Member is not scratched off, and therefore the only one still alive.lol.
Why do you ask that, African? You should know that, since you are the GB member, aren't you?
Yes, they do. It's not that big of a secret.
I really don't think the Governing Body have a "list" of the names of partakers anyway. What for? They don't send out issues to them and ask them how Jehovah is directing their conscience or concerns on issues. There is no "voting" among that "remnant." The "remnant" doesn't have any more authority than the "great crowd" non-partakers. The Governing Body truly don't care about the "remnant." All the authority is within the Governing Body only, and they don't all agree, even on life-threatening issues. They just vote among each other. It is just amazing that their god can't get at least 9 men to have unanimous unity on their issues, since they claim to have such perfect "unity."
Gayle, there is a list, and they do it for their own posterity. When they use the phrase "genuine annointed", its due to their own approved list.
I wonder if I'm on that list Jeff.......after all, I'm the mother of the Messiah am I not?
Jeff, I have to take issue with you and disagree with your statement. My reason: during a recent discussion on the 6 Screens tele-network it was mentioned that the HQ at Bethel had not a clue who the annual partakers were. (If memory serves, it was Chris Christianson who discussed this with Richard Rawe.) It is true that the information used to be recorded on the publisher's record card that is (was?) kept in the Kingdom Hall, but that is a local record.
If the WTB&TS wanted to have a special assembly for members of the anointed only, they wouldn't know who to contact. They're only concerned with the members of the mythical anointed who are in Brooklyn HQ sitting on the thrones of power.
The non-Bethel anointed are a sham and a smokescreen intended to confuse people about who has the real power in the WTB&TS. It is ALL concentrated in Brooklyn. No non-Bethelite anointed has ever been asked to contribute their views to the WT catechism, and most of those who have offered have been rebuffed, reproved or disfellowshipped.
Those non-Bethel anointed are as relevant to the WTB&TS as a troop of Girl Scouts are to the US Navy SEALS, but they lack the snappy uniforms of the Girl Scouts.
Sister Mary, I am absolutely positive they have your name somewhere on a list.
Nathan, let me clarify. I don't know if you ever took count at a Memorial for example, but every year, anyone who partakes is observed. Any baptized JW who partakes (obviously visitors who partake are not counted) is sent in as a partaker. Thats it.
If they are newly partaking, two elders will talk to the publisher. If the publisher professes to be of the annointed, then it is duly noted on their publisher record cards.
When the CO reviews all the cards, he will see this, and note the name.
Usually, the CO will discuss the behavior of the publisher with the elders if they are newly partaking. If it is a brother, the recent articles about how those who profess to be of the annointed are not to be treated any differently then other sheep publishers will be reviewed, and a likely shepherding call will be scheduled.
If a long time publisher (esp a brother) professes to be of the annointed, then special attention is paid to them. How do you think Morris and Jackson for example got noticed? Yes, they were in special full time service. But that is the point. There is a list, certain names are taken, and they are considered "genuine annointed." Circuit Overseers are depended upon to notice. If a CO believes that a (newly) professed annointed one might not be "up to JW annointed snuff" (my phraseology), then it is merely noted that they partook and are claiming to be annointed.
To me, it is all the more damning that they keep track, because they know better then anyone how much of a sham, both doctrinally and from a simple math equation (less then 144,000 faithful Christians from Jesus time to the 20th century?? REALLY?) their bullshit teaching is.
Nathan Natas posts exactly what I thought about this - even if there IS a list today, there could not really be one from the 1930s to 1960s.
Two more points - back in the old days, we never sent in NAMES of someone who was partaking, only the number who did so. The local servants were pretty much free to NOT report a number for someone partaking who was highly "questionable"- I.E. inactive, senile, not baptized, etc. I do not recall any format for reporting "names of people" either pro or con.
It is true that SOME of these older "annointed" were also token holders of WTS Society stock, but that was a separate thing - not all "annointed" were society stockholders. Not all the stockholders were servants, nor not even all were brothers. They were never allowed to actually "vote" on anything - all resolutions required them to turn in a proxy so that the society big-shots could control the results of a vote. This was long before the elder arrangement and the GB, too.
Just to clarify, the CO is depended upon to verify "genuine annointed" to the branch. Locally, there is no provision for reporting names of partakers to the branch.
