i have only known one , who talked more about the "wicked system" and satan and how immoral worldlys are etc than the jws i knew who were still "in" and he ended up abusing my daughter ! still never gone back 14 years after being disfellowshipped , some local dubs take that to mean jehovah didnt want him back till his abusive past (as a jw ) had been found out ! do you know someone very hypocritical ?
do you know someone who is disfellowshipped or not active who still talks of "truth" and is still judgemental ?
by looloo 15 Replies latest jw experiences
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shamus100
Yes.
Dubbies go through righteous phases, which, I feel (no psychology degree here, so take it as is; TRASHCAN PSYCHOLOGY!) feeds into their low self-esteem and makes them feel better about the piles of garbage that they are. I'm not just talking DF'd here...
Example: You get someone who fell off the wagon, i.e. pioneer, 150 hours a month, comments every meeting, old people love her, to drunk - whore - idiot for a while, DF'd, then comes back far more 'righteous' than they were before. (aka, haughty) Instead of displaying Christlike qualities like empathy, they display haughtiness. Now EVERYONE HAS SEEN these people. Everyone.
I feel the religion attracts those cooks. Why the hell would anyone want them as friends? I ditched all my believing JW friends once I left. I won't tolerate seeing the righteous phase that comes just like waves on a beach.
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Terry
I certainly know I sure did for at least a decade after I was no longer going to the Kingdom Hall.
Why?
It was my World View! It was the ONLY view I had to go on.
It took years and years and years to replace each and every word, definition, concept and rationale planted by the Watchtower society!
I would compare it to having a house where there was a fire.
Afterward everything stinks of smoke.
Every book, chair, magazine, cup, photograph, article of clothing--everything smells of smoke!
That is how you brain is after the Jehovah's Witness fire has burned away your identity and critical thinking!
Everything has to be removed and scrubbed clean or tossed away!
Otherwise, you may be walking around saying you don't believe JW's have the TRUTH, but, your brain is as dead as a beaver hat!
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Quillsky
I knew this guy who wasn't disfellowshipped but he'd been inactive for a long time and was living with his girlfriend. He'd say to me "It's the truth, I still know it's the truth, there IS going to be a Big A one day, I just can't live up to the truth right now."
Sickening, not the living with his girlfriend part, the "I know it's the truth" part.
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new light
DF'd, then comes back far more 'righteous' than they were before. (aka, haughty)
This line slammed me. I had completely forgotten that I was the guy who was Df'ed, then in the time leading up to reinstatement was the most holier than thou, judgemental prick around, all the while being the community "leper". No regrets, though. Live and learn.
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garyneal
do you know someone who is disfellowshipped or not active who still talks of "truth" and is still judgemental ?
You mean someone other than the e-watchman?
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thetrueone
Its quite common, this is done to appear I'm still faithful to the Truth and I know its the Truth,
but I'm just having some problems right now and I'm being disciplined.
In other words I have an fabricated character and intellect shaped by the WTS. and I really don't have anything else.
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WTWizard
I have seen one--the scumbag that dragged me into the cancer. He got disfellowshipped once in the early 1990s for adultery, and was just as judgmental then as he was while in the cancer. He got reinstated, and went inactive shortly after. During this period, he was just as judgmental as while he was active in the late 1980s. He went back to activity for about a year in the mid 1990s, before falling out again. He was inactive again, and saw someone that was disfellowshipped that he was determined to drag back into the cancer (which is not a good sign). He started attending boasting sessions again, and got disfellowshipped for association with a disfellowshipped person. About 2 years later, he was reinstated, and soon after the person he tried dragging back in also got reinstated.
And the judgmentality never slowed down through it all.
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bulgogiboy
My Mum is inactive, she faded shortly after my Father(ironically non-jw and opposed) passed away. For over 4 years there has been almost no contact from anyone from the KH, even though my Mum was a faithful and zealous witness for around 15 yrs or so. We live in a very small hamlet(basically a dozen houses), and I even saw jws from the local cong doing door-knocking here not so long ago, I wasnt wanting them to call on us, far from it, but I was kind of angry that in such a small hamlet that they very rarely go on field service to, they wouldnt even bother to stop in to see how my Mum was doing. Not even a tract through the letterbox. She got a phonecall in recent months from an elderly jw, asking her how she was getting on, and I later learned from a friend who has family in the jw org that this gesture of concern was simply due to the theme of a recent assembly(bringing back lost sheep or similar drivel). Anyway, despite this utter lack of concern from the people she called friends for so long, my Mum still believes 100% in WT bullshit. She 'knows' its the truth, and while she isnt judgemental, her jw-inspired moralistic tendencies do still shine through now and again which pisses me off. I think even though she lives her own life now (she does Christmas, birthdays,etc) its just the fact that deep down she is still convinced of them being God's messengers that really infuriates me. On the rare occasions we do talk about the jws I get so frustrated with her. I have decided we should NEVER talk about it again! I also had a disturbing experience just the other day from a friend of a friend, a guy who im told is a spiritual leper in his own cong(due to a lifelong proclivity towards excess alcohol and illicit sexual activity), hasnt been for years, but still makes some half-assed attempt to defend 'the truth' usually with rhetoric and hot air.I basically dont even know this guy, have met him all of 2 times, and am happy to say I wont be meeting him again. He became a 'facebook friend'(you know how deeply those 'friendships' run...), got offended at me expressing my opinion about religion, and ended up sending me the most hateful and aggressive emails I have ever received in my whole life! The worst kind of jw for me is the young(ish) man from a large jw family who wants to be seen as a 'lad' and a tough guy by his mates on the outside, but feels he can go along to the memorial once a year, and 'keep the truth' on hold until a later date, once he's grown tired of all the pleasurable things that the religion he holds so dear wont let him do. Oh, and along the way showing 'the truth' is really 'in his heart' by openly projecting contempt and malice towards people of other religions, people who have decided the jw org just isnt for them, scientists, people with any kind of higher education, etc. Regardless of how inactive/DA'd/DF'd deal with being in this spiritual limbo, one thing is clear: All the uncertainty, guilt and regret takes an immense toll on your mental well-being, and these people are to be pitied.
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Gayle
There's a lot of that. It is stunning (in a bad way) . My brother's father-in-law spoke to a disfellowshipped (for smoking) JW pointing to the facts of the JWs history and false prophecy. The DF'd JW went to the elders to tell on my brother's FIL. Crazy! Another ex-in-law, lived a life of wanton immorality and probably drugs etc., but felt haughtily self-righteous that he would never celebrate Christmas nor ever speak against the " JW truth" (?). Known another in prison for fraud (never DF'd), (had other serious deceptions), but again had a self-righteousness that he would "never speak" against the organization and actually would try to preach to other prisoners of JW teachings. It is just crazy to me!