The New Songbook, Joe Biden and 49% Less Jesus !

by metatron 13 Replies latest jw friends

  • metatron
    metatron

    Jesus is treated as a redundant, almost minor character in Watchtower- Land. He sat around heaven with nothing to do for almost 2000 years until "The Truth" was re-discovered by an American haberdasher. He never seems to get any personal mention/appreciation even in life stories by the supposed "anointed" as published by the Society (in contrast to the Apostle Paul and other early Christians)

    And after 1914? More nothing. Toss Satan out and then sit.

    Has the Watchtower made Jesus into a sort of Joe Biden?. Our Vice President remarked that his job was easy with really nothing to do. Isn't Jesus a sort of 'Vice President' of the Universe? Second in command with nothing to do?

    Considering that the Bible presents the angels together in a heavenly court and as having free will, I wonder if Jesus ever had to break any tie votes, taking note that "myriads" represent an even number ("Resolved that Satan can mess with Job - the ayes have it").

    Sorry for that VP joke. But it gets worse.

    Someone wrote an excellent post about the altered wording of the new Songbook. Leafing thru it, I noticed something odd.

    About 49% less 'Jesus'! I decided to count every use of 'Jesus', 'Christ' or the possessive 'Christ's' in the old songbook and compare it with the new. I came up with 225 out of 225 songs (old) and 70 out of 135 (new) Feel free to correct me with your own count. (I was reminded of how little Witnesses kids are taught to be obsessive-compulsive by being told to 'sit still and write down how many times the speaker says Jehovah".)

    I was surprized at how many songs I paged thru without any invocation of Jesus name. He really is treated as an afterthought, a minor character - and it seems to have gotten worse. More than that, Jesus is completely missing in some songs that you would think demand his presence, as with loyalty as a subject ( song 63). And, yes, subtle phrases are introduced to promote obedience to the organization in different guises to fill the vacuum.

    I must apologize as to the above, in that I do not wish to offend anyone or seem blasphemous. It's just that I keep being amazed at how a 'true Christian' religion can downplay Jesus with increasing intensity.

    metatron

  • beksbks
    beksbks

    Joe Biden is a good man. Jesus was a good man. Their strength is in their humanity. I admire them both for their simple goodness. I've seen Joe, I've always assumed Jesus was a real dude. God's son? God? Probably not.

    Before any rabid right wing christians move to stone me, there are many on my list, Biden is nowhere near the top, Jesus is.

  • White Dove
    White Dove

    I met Joe. He's nice and so is his son, Beau.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW
    I must apologize as to the above, in that I do not wish to offend anyone or seem blasphemous.
    It's just that I keep being amazed at how a 'true Christian' religion can downplay Jesus with increasing intensity.

    The WBT$ shows a real lack of respect for Jesus..

    As a Non Christian with Christian friends..I find the conduct of the WBT$ extremely Offensive..

    There is no crime in pointing out..

    The Anti-Christ behaviour,of the WBT$..

    ..................... ...OUTLAW

  • villabolo
    villabolo

    Good points metatron. Did you happen to count the number of times loyalty to the organization is mentioned as opposed to the number of times Jesus is mentioned?

    villabolo

  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    Whenever a Christian organisation asks "How do we know Jesus will be loyal in his reign as King?" (as it did in a 2009 WT) we know we're in trouble.

  • SirNose586
    SirNose586

    It all makes sense. They really can't be devoting too much praise to an archangel, you know...

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    I came up with 225 out of 225 songs (old) and 70 out of 135 (new) Feel free to correct me with your own count.

    I'll take your word for it. Great post though.

  • SirNose586
    SirNose586

    Also, the old book had 7 songs specifically about Jesus. The new book has 2 songs about Jesus.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Seems Jesus is being impeached in favor of the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger. Remember, they call themselves a Christian religion, and if they are the true Christians, Christ had better play a prominent role. And, according to whose doctrine is Jesus' dying necessary to even have a hope for salvation? Certainly not mine--it is the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger itself that proclaimed that Jesus' death was necessary to have any chance for salvation. Once you leave Jesus out, according to their own doctrines, you can't be saved at all.

    Rather, I would like seeing Jehovah and the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger impeached. Jehovah for tyranny, the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger for misrepresenting the Bible after claiming to have a monopoly on abiding by it.

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