GIVE us back our ELEVEN DAYS! Go to bed on Friday and wake up on Friday the NEXT DAY?

by Terry 11 Replies latest jw friends

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  Terry

  Imagine having just paid your rent. You have a whole month until you have to pay again. You go to bed secure in that knowledge.

  When you wake up the next morning you discover 11 days have been removed from the calendar and your rent will be due again only 20 days!

  This is exactly what happened when the Julian Calendar was revised to the Gregorian calendar.

  And why was it revised? So that EASTER could be celebrated "correctly".

  The last day of the Julian calendar was Thursday, 4 October 1582 and this was followed by the first day of the Gregorian calendar, Friday, 15 October 1582 (the cycle of weekdays was not affected).

  So, that was that, eh? All settled? No way! Different countries went about it (or not at all) individually! Each country (Protestant or Catholic) either complied or ignored Pope Gregory's revision.

  Depending on where you lived, a letter mailed which ordinarily took a week and a half to reach its destination might suddenly arrive the same day it was sent!

  Why would Protestants pay any attention to a Catholic Pope?

  Catholics revised to the Gregorian calendar while many Protestants remained with the Julian Calendar!

  Great Britain and the colonies in America did not adopt the Gregorian calendar until 1752!

  Wednesday, 2 September 1752 was followed by Thursday, 14 September 1752.

  What if you were living in Alaska?

  In Alaska the change took place when Friday, 6 October 1867 was followed again by Friday, 18 October after the US purchase of Alaska from Russia, which was still on the Julian calendar. Instead of 12 days, only 11 were skipped, and the day of the week was repeated on successive days!

  So What?

  Think about this.

  When Jehovah's Witnesses start computing the "correct" day to observe THE MEMORIAL they do so at the command of a CATHOLIC POPE!

  As much as individual nations, tribes and religions have arbitrarily adopted (or not) completely arbitrary means of computing time, days, months and years---How could any reasonable person think it is even possible to know how many years have passed from event to another event?

  Keep that upper most in your mind the next time the Watchtower starts mouthing off about dates and times in their cartoon chronology!

  It was introduced by Pope Gregory XIII, after whom the calendar was named, by a decree signed on 24 February 1582
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  snowbird

  There were actual riots in some places as those who believed in predestination thought 11 days had been deducted from their salvation schematic.

  LOL.

  Puck was so right - "Lord, what fools these mortals be!"

  Sylvia
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  cyberjesus

  When Jehovah's Witnesses start computing the "correct" day to observe THE MEMORIAL they do so at the command of a CATHOLIC POPE!

  Explain this please... Aren't all our activities governed by that Catholic pope's calendar? Im sorry but I dont get the point
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  Terry

  Explain this please... Aren't all our activities governed by that Catholic pope's calendar? Im sorry but I dont get the point

  It was a snarky point, actually!

  Ever since Rutherford took over the Watchtower Society has been obsessed with what they term "pure worship". What that consists

  of is pretending to be different in every way from normal mankind.

  Ray Franz reported in one of his two books how the Governing Body considered a proposal to change the names of the days of the week because of the pagan god association of the names!

  I think the compulsion to observe the MEMORIAL celebration on just the right day NISAN 14 is a fetish like all the others.

  Of course all our activities are governed by the Catholic Pope's calendar. I find it glaringly dull of the Governing Body to not notice that and have a hissy fit about it!!
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  Mall Cop

  All activties that the watchtower follows from the Bible comes from the Roman Catholics Original selection of which book remained in their bible. The watchtower switched to the King James Bible then made their own New World Translation version.

  So, what you have here is a Governing Body/ writing dept./ legal dept and whoever, making it up as the times they are a changing.

  Blueblades
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  Terry

  All activties that the watchtower follows from the Bible comes from the Roman Catholics Original selection of which book remained in their bible. The watchtower switched to the King James Bible then made their own New World Translation version.

  All Bible translations (Yes, I said "All") have nothing to fall back on that is original, authentic, uncorrupt or corresponding to documentary evidence BECAUSE........

  Nobody preserved the original manuscript autograph texts!

  I can't get it over it!

  The most religious of fanatics will not blink an eye over this astounding fact!

  NOBODY THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA to preserve the ORIGINALS to prevent fraudulent changes!

  It is like a billionaire leaving a will and....instead of the relatives producing the autograph document in court---they produce a "copy" of it in their own handwriting 250 years after his death!!

  Anybody remember what happened when billionaire Howard Hughes died?
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  notverylikely

  NOBODY THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA to preserve the ORIGINALS to prevent fraudulent changes!

  Terry, even the Jews did not preserve their own originals. That's nothing new. Remember the book of the law that was lost and found hundreds of years later?

  It IS hilarious that so many people call the bible the perfectly preserved inspired word of god until you ask..."well, which version?"

  The JW's, in particular, who are so fond of "pure" worship, get their bible from the catholics (even though they did their own translation, they use the same books and manuscripts), their math from egyptian pyramids, the calendar they use to calculate those dates from the romans and the catholics and their science from whoever's quote they can twist to support their ideas.

  Laughable, really.
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  Terry

  Even the "ten words" written by the finger of God himself were.....conveniently destroyed!

  What Moses came back with after that was something he himself had carved now called "commandments"!

  We don't know what the TEN WORDS (decalogue) were because evidence was destroyed!

  The history of religion is a history not unlike UFO sightings and Loch Ness monsters. Believers eveywhere and no documentary hard evidence!

  Lots and lots of claims and manufactured proof.

  How many times have we heard about Noah's Ark being "found"? Where is the evidence? Conveniently "lost".

  The Bible is maybe the greatest fraud in human history.
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  JWoods

  And, of course, there is also the point that there was no written NT command to do this once a year, or to try to figure out what day passover would have been celebrated to do it.

  Nor is there any written NT command to exclude that vast majority of the congregation from the celebration for obscure reasons.
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  Mall Cop

  Terry, THE BIBLE "IS" THE GREATEST FRAUD IN ALL HISTORY.

  After reading,The Bible Unearthed,archaeology's new vision of ancient Israel and the origin of its sacred texts. Misquoting Jesus, Who wrote the Bible and Carl Sagan's The Demon Haunted World. Also,When religion becomes evil, the lessons of history and many other books like this that I can list, how can you not see the evidence that the Bible is the greatest fraud in all history.

  Blueblades