......a reason I have no use for the RCC.
Catholic Church Questions Motives of Abuse Victims-- Apology????
by blondie 19 Replies latest jw friends
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TTWSYF
You just can't get rid of the infallable Pope!
Of course there are no infallable Popes. The promise that Jesus made to his Church was that it's teachings would be protected through all generations and ages and in the event of an anti-pope [and I'm not suggesting that this Pope is an anti-pope] that the teachings would still be uncorrupt,the teachings would remain infallable even if the individual is not. We all have read how Peter denied Jesus 3x, Paul had to correct him on atleast one occassion and he probably wasn't the smartest apostle, but his teachings were flawless. Read some church father's writtings and see that they all took their cues from Peter in Rome. That's why the Catholic church has been around for some 2000 years. That it can and will withstand the attacks of Satan and all of hell itself...that is was Holy Scripture says.
dc
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diamondiiz
Religion is like cancer that needs to be eradicated. Longer it's allowed to be, the more damage it caused and more innocent people suffer under it's sickening ways.
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blondie
Notice here how the Pope passes the buck and vice versa. Notice how those responsible in Milwaukee are named.
Milwaukee Archbishop Apologizes For Priest's Sex Abuse
Listecki Says Mistakes Were Made In Priest's Case
Posted: 9:20 pm CDT March 30,2010
Text Size A A A MILWAUKEE -- The archbishop of the Milwaukee Archdiocese said the pope shouldn't be held accountable for mistakes made in Wisconsin while investigating an alleged pedophile priest.
Archbishop Jerome Listecki acknowledged Tuesday that mistakes were made in the case of the Rev. Lawrence Murphy. The priest who died in 1998 was accused of sexually assaulting some 200 deaf boys in Milwaukee from 1950 to 1974.
Pope Benedict XVI has come under criticism after documents revealed that the office he held as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger halted church judicial proceedings against Murphy.
Listecki says history will show Ratzinger dealt with the matter swiftly and decisively. He said the mistakes were made in Milwaukee, not Rome. He also apologized to the victims.
Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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yesidid
It is when I read posts like your # 49 TTWSYF that I understand why some people are still JW's.
There are people who will not only believe, but also make excuses, for almost anything.
If you can excuse the religion which instigitated and carried on the inquisitiion for 350 years you can excuse anything.
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TTWSYF
yesiddid
If you can excuse the religion which instigated and carried on the inquisition for 350 years you can excuse anything.
If I may correct you. The inquisition was not a teaching of the Church. Some in the Church started it [in Spain I believe] and it was continued and it is certainly a terrible historical black eye, to say the least.
What can be said? Well, the bible says that the Church contains good and bad people and that Jesus will seperate the wheat from the chaffe. If the Church contains good and bad, then you cannot judge the Church from the bad only, can you? You must look at it's teachings and see for yourself if you are in the faith [again, as scripture states]. Everyone knows that power corrupts, and the more power, the more corruption. The inquisition happened during the centuries known as the Dark ages. There was alot of bad seemingly overcoming the good...but the Church is still there. Through that and other scandels the Church is still there just as Jesus promised. Even if there are terrible people connected to it, you have to know that there are more good people in it than bad, but the bad folks get all the press. So it is not the religion which conducted the inquisition, but corrupt people in positions of power. I hope you can see the difference.
respectfully,
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JWoods
So it is not the religion which conducted the inquisition, but corrupt people in positions of power.
And, to follow - today then: So it is not the religion which conducted the molestation coverup, but corrupt people in positions of power.
And, to logically follow that: So corrupt people in positions of power should be expelled.
And, to logically follow that: Ratzinger should be removed from power. Others who excused this behavior should be removed from power.
Anything else preserves the cycle of corruption.
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undercover
JWs will jump all over this to point out how fallible the pope/RCC is. They'll gush with joy if this blows up enough to cause the pope to step down/be removed.
Yet this same bunch will defend their own "clergy" and the church position of being directed by God when it's pointed out how JWs have had some of the same issues.
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JWoods
Yet this same bunch will defend their own "clergy" and the church position of being directed by God when it's pointed out how JWs have had some of the same issues.
True. And as little as they have yet done, the Catholics have demonstrably done more to correct the issue than the Watchtower Society.
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blondie
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/31/AR2010033101099.html
Catholic students attack media over abuse charges
By Philip Pullella
Reuters
Wednesday, March 31, 2010; 9:26 AMVATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Conservative Catholic university students rushed to Pope Benedict's defense on Wednesday, attacking journalists who have written about the sexual abuse of children by priests as "sowers of mistrust."
The some 4,000 students from around the world, in Rome for a convention, handed the beleaguered pope a letter of support during his weekly general audience in St Peter's Square.
In his address, the pope made no direct reference to the scandal sweeping the church but said priests should always send a message of "hope, reconciliation and peace."
The university students, from the conservative Catholic group Opus Dei, handed Benedict a letter that read: "We notice that many have taken advantage of some episodes that are painful for the Church and the pope to spread doubts and suspicion.
"To these sowers of mistrust we wish to say with clarity that we do not accept their ideology ... we demand from them respect for our faith and the recognition of the right that we have to live as Christians in a plural society."
Catholics' reactions to the abuse scandal have been mixed. A Forsa survey for Stern magazine showed 19 percent of Germany's estimated 25 million Catholics were thinking about leaving the church because of the issue.
The Vatican has attacked the media for what it called an "ignoble attempt" to smear the pope and his top advisers.
It has denied any cover-up in the abuse of 200 deaf boys in the United States by Reverend Lawrence Murphy from the 1950s to the 1960s. The New York Times reported that the Vatican and Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict, were warned about Murphy but he was not defrocked.
The Vatican has denied reports that the pope, while archbishop of Munich in 1980, was involved in a decision by a subordinate to allow a priest undergoing therapy after committing sexual abuse to later return to pastoral duties.
SCANDAL DIVIDES CHURCH
There is anticipation at the Vatican that the pope may speak about the abuse scandal directly in the next few days.
Pilgrims leaving St Peter's Square after Wednesday's audience were divided.
"My belief in God is not as good as it was ... I must really confess I am disappointed by the Catholic Church," an Austrian teacher who declined to give her name told Reuters Television.
Bo Ostria from Sweden said: "Yeah I believe in God. It's still strong, it doesn't matter what people do."
In the pope's native Germany, the church has opened a hotline for victims of child abuse. More than 250 Catholics in Germany have registered alleged abuse cases, most of them at Catholic boarding schools decades ago.
(Writing by Philip Pullella; additional reporting by Gabriele Pileri and Cristiano Corvino in Rome and Christopher Lawton in Berlin; editing by Andrew Roche)
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