Have the Faithful and Discreet Slave been replaced by.......?

by Terry 14 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  moshe

  Last month I asked for proof if any member of the Governing body had said they were one of the F&DS, or for that matter any individual by name as being identified as one of the F&D Slave by the Watchtower or even at a convention, an individual speaker being identified as part of that class or a speaker in the first person, saying I am one!. Nobody has been able to provide any proof that anyone believes they are part of that class or they know anyone personally whom they will publicly identify with that class and who accepts that honor..... which leads me to believe that the Faithful and Discreet Slave class is for all intents and purposes extinct. People claim to know they exist- somewhere, and the printed pages of the WatchTower claim they are still among us- somewhere-, but they just can't find anyone who knows they are "one of them" and will admit to it publicly. I think my odds are better in seeing a Jackalope this summer on vacation, than finding honest to goodness flesh and blood F&DS member.

  

  Since the GB years ago gave up the writing of the WT to others and the general annointed class are ignored by the WT corp, then how can the F&DS be said to directly provide meat in due season to the sheep? They can't. And that is why no names are attached to that class by the WT magazine. Legally, they have , by omission, provided the proof that this class does not direct the writing of the WatchTower magazine. Just call up Bethel and ask them for proof that the F&DS directs the WT org. Just certify one name, signed and notorized by the legal department, that will suffice.
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  fokyc

  My wife's CotBoE (Ex. CO).

  He says that the instructions from the F&DS are superseded by his opinions
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  JWoods

  Then, Rutherford got rid of nay-sayers (and disabled the veto of fellow board members) and applied the FDS to himself and a phoney application to the other anointed. (I say "phoney" because none other than himself really had much actual power).

  The Kingdom Hall definition of FDS would be a sort of shimmering ideal of magic apostles in Brooklyn channeling God's spirit and direction.

  The idea of mysterious and mystical remnant with secret decoder rings was thrilling to some.

  The power wielded by Rutherford and later Knorr rankled some others at the top badly.

  Around 1975/76 a sort of coup took place with Fred Franz and Knorr on one side and everybody else of note at Bethel on the other and power

  was wrested away from the one-man-rule.

  That was the REAL birth of the Governing Body as a genuine majesterium

  That is exactly the way I view the hierarchy - the Faithful and Discreet Slave as the general annointed was ALWAYS a sad myth.

  Way back in 1970 I asked questions about whether the general population of the annointed around the U.S. and other nations really had any input into what decisions the society was making - when I was at overseer school under Schroeder. What he told me was that "from time to time, the society has a multiple combination of letters suggesting some such idea from a number of the annointed...". Then, the idea is "considered" -

  It was so obviously B.S. that I immediately took it to mean that Franz/Knorr just did whatever they pleased - and really had no idea who was out there in the congregations as "annointed" or what they thought.

  EDIT to add - remember that back in the 60s/70s when some of the elderly annointed had WTSociety stock, they were NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO VOTE THEIR SHARES - Knorr & Co. demanded they sign over a proxy to the directors.
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  PSacramento

  Yes they have. Last year there was a WT article that clearly stated the following

  *** w09 6/15 p. 22 par. 10 The Faithful Steward and Its Governing Body ***

  10 However, were all spirit-anointed Christians involved in overseeing the preaching work and in preparing spiritual food? No. The apostle Paul tells us: “Not all are apostles, are they? Not all are prophets, are they? Not all are teachers, are they? Not all perform powerful works, do they?” (1 Cor. 12:29) Although all spirit-begotten Christians engaged in the preaching work, only a very limited number—just eight different men—were used to write the 27 books of the Christian Greek Scriptures.

  Typical selective crap !

  Paul makes it clear that not ALL should be involved in preaching work and they ignore that fact !

  Talk about the blind leading the blind.
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  Terry

  Maria Exley Russell are you happy with what you've wrought?