END of the WORLD 2012 and other crap (even JW crap)

by Terry 10 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Terry
    Terry
    All the myths of the world's end have no logical basis.
    Simon Baty

    Violent tsunamis surging through mountaintops and thunderous earthquakes bursting apart concrete streets are just some of the elaborate plot devices behind the movie "2012" that made its way into theaters in 2009.
    Producers looked to a widely believed myth that catastrophic destruction and natural disasters await the world in December of that year as they proceeded to give the story the ol' Hollywood spit shine.
    Fortunately for us, this is just a movie and it is based on the assumption that when the Mayan calendar ends, so will the entire world.
    Not surprisingly, there are a myriad of other theories and ideas surrounding the topic. These include the Earth colliding with a passing planet, or the Earth being sucked into a black hole when it aligns in the middle of the galaxy on that day.
    However, none are more famous and awe inspiring as the Mayan end times myth.
    Dictionary.com defines myth as "an indirect representation of information that is widely believed as true."
    The world ending in 2012 has no more of a logical basis then the Y2K scare when we thought all computers were going to break down or the 6/6/06 incident, when the devil was supposed to return to Earth.
    Ideas such as these belong in the same realm as fantasy and only serve a purpose among book sellers, conspiracy theorists, pop culture enthusiasts and last, but not least, movie producers. When Dec. 21, 2012 comes and goes, they will surely think of something else in its stead.
    To contrast this idea, take for example the Jehovah's Witnesses. No one group of people in history has ever predicted the end of the world so often and been wrong so often. As of 1984, they are 0 of 9.
    And in 1995, they took a step further and announced that Armageddon had been postponed until further notice; thank God for that!
    The truth is that the Mayan culture has been distorted and repackaged to resemble something that no longer has any base in science or anthropology.
    People have been freaking out and predicting the end of the world since the beginning of recorded history.
    And yet, the Earth has been getting along just fine for more than four billion years; if there hasn't been any sign of the end yet, there is no reason to expect it in the near future.

  • JWoods
    JWoods

    One big difference is that only maybe 10% (if that) of the 2012 people think that is REALLY the end of the world.

    But probably 90% of the JWs believed that 1975 was the big A - until they lived through and after it for about 3 to 5 years.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    Logic Shmogic!!!!!

    Attention-grabbing sensationalism is what sells books, movies, advertising space on the television.

    "The world will be uncomfortable in 1975." Would that have allowed the growth to modernize the printing corp.? Nope.

    If you were to ask how many people understand the controversy of the Mayans calendar, virtually none would really understand that they did not predict the end of the world in 2012. The attention-grabbing sensationalism is all they remember, even when they disagree with it.

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free

    While there was some legitimate concern about Y2K, it was blown all out of proportion. I work in the IT field, and I made a lot of $$ in 1999 with all the overtime and extra projects to achieve Y2K compliance. Even my ex insisted on stocking up on bottled water, canned foods, etc., and she really should have known better.

    I bought 2012 on DVD because I'm interested in the special effects. I thought the character development just wasn't there, and I found myself hoping John Cusack would get hit by a lava bomb.

    W

  • Terry
    Terry

    The few brothers or sisters I've talk to about 1975 as a "no show" all have the same reaction.

    Which is to say...they have NO SPECIFIC RECALL of any feelings, thoughts or emotions!

    Self-erased memory to avoid trauma I suppose!

    It was coitus interruptus of the faith.

  • JWoods
    JWoods
    The few brothers or sisters I've talk to about 1975 as a "no show" all have the same reaction.
    Which is to say...they have NO SPECIFIC RECALL of any feelings, thoughts or emotions!

    But at the time - 1970 up to 1975, to (publicly) deny the likelyhood would have been viewed as an extreme form of spiritual weakness by the JWs.

    I was there and I was an elder. No, I did not believe it - just kept my mouth shut.

    Even the gung-ho elders quit pumping it up about 1974 and started trying to minimize the expectations with that last-minute "we don't know when Eve was created" B.S.

  • JWoods
    JWoods

    BTW, Terry your posted wording here is quite funny:

    All the myths of the world's end have no logical basis.

    No shit, sherlock! If they had had any logical basis there would not have been any more world.

    Well, except, I guess, if anybody is still waiting on 2012...

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    As far as the movie 2012 goes, I told people that if they saw the Woody Harrelson scene with his character's web video, they saw the entire premise of the movie and didn't need the rest (except for the special effects). Here it is in two parts:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzMHl4EZw-c

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWaMuuJBcZQ&feature=related

  • jeovagood
    jeovagood

    Like with Y2K year 2000 this apocalyptic date will come and go what is good about it is it will saturate the public on doomsayers and I think will erode the WT credibility is already starting to.

    2012 is a 12 year peak sunspot plasma eject year which the worst in modern time was during the telegraph era that got fried.If this happens again the satellites and many electronics are gone.WORST every power line transformer will be busted and will take two years to replace no jobs no electricity no food at supermarkets in North America.

    I have a back up generator for storm won't do me any good they might even kill me to steal it

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    If I understand the "end of days" aspect of the Mayan predictions for the year 2012, it isn't actually the "END" of days; it's simply the end of a very long cycle in the Mayan calendar...

    Now, the Mayans - if I've got this right - DID believe that this particular end of cycle would bring about dramatic and violent changes...

    But NOT the end of the actual "world"...

    Zid

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