PROVE these scriptures unrelated - also, EXPERIMENT: do you see a message here??

by EndofMysteries 20 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • EndofMysteries
    EndofMysteries

    Whether you believe in the bible or not, these are not completely separate books with nothing related.

    This is the tip of the iceberg, but I wanted to demonstrate why I believe there is a deep hidden message in the bible, and that its books ARE linked.

    Does the bible itself reveal who the King of the North is? (The whole world is trying to 'guess' and 'interpret' and treat all prophecies as individual)

    (warning: this could set off a chain reaction and your searching the entire bible linking and getting better understanding of many prophecies ;) )

    No whether you believe in the bible or not, just as experiment, since I'm not leaving any comments on them, do you see all these scriptures related and what summarized what do you think its saying?

    Duet 28:49 - Jehovah will raise up against you a nation far away, a nation whose tongue you will not understand........51 they will eat the fruit of your domestic........52 they will beseige you within your gates....

    Is 5:26 - and he has raised upa signal to a great nation far away, and he has whistled to it at the extremeity of the earth.....

    Jer 5:15 - Here I am bringing in upon you men a nation from far away, O house of Israel, it is a nation of long ago, a nation whose language you do not know.

    Daniel 11:40 - and the king of the north will storm with chariots and horsemen and with many ships, and he will certainly enter into the lands and flood over and pass through

    Is 7:17-19 - Jehovah will bring aginst you and against your people and .......the king of Assyria. nd it must occur in that time that Jehovah will whistle for the flies that are at the extremity of the nile canals of Egypt and for the bees that are in the land of Assyria.

    Ezekiel 16:37-40 - here I am collecting all those passionately loving you, I will collect them together against you....and they must bring up agaist you a congregation and pelt you with stones and slaughter you with their swords.

    Ez 17:17 - and by a great military force and by a multitudinious congregation......

    Is 8:7 - And he will certainly come up over all his streambeds and go over all his banks 8 and move on through Judah. He will actually flood and pass over. Up to the neck he will reach. And the outspreading of his wings must occur to fill the breadth of your land, O Im·man′u·el!”

    Daniel 11:10 - 10 “Now as for his sons, they will excite themselves and actually gather together a crowd of large military forces. And in coming he will certainly come and flood over and pass through. But he will go back, and he will excite himself all the way to his fortress.

    Joel 2:1-4 - There is a people numerous and mighty, one like it has not been made to exist from the indefinite past, and after it there will be none again ...

    Numbers 24:24 - 22 But there will come to be one to burn Ka′in down.
    How long will it be till As·syr′i·a will carry you away captive?”
    23 And he carried further his proverbial utterance and went on to say:
    “Woe! Who will survive when God causes it?
    24 And there will be ships from the coast of Kit′tim,
    And they will certainly afflict As·syr′i·a,

    Daniel 11:29 - 29 “At the time appointed he will go back, and he will actually come against the south; but it will not prove to be at the last the same as at the first. 30 And there will certainly come against him the ships of Kit′tim, and he will have to become dejected.

  • EndofMysteries
    EndofMysteries

    And I purposely made sure I used least 6 or 7 different books, can add more 'related' to these if need be.

  • notverylikely
    notverylikely

    just tell us. why play this game?

  • cult classic
    cult classic

    (The whole world is trying to 'guess' and 'interpret' and treat all prophecies as individual)

    I don't think the whole world is trying to do this. Maybe some people are interested but certainly not the whole world.

    (warning: this could set off a chain reaction and your searching the entire bible linking and getting better understanding of many prophecies ;) )

    That chain reaction was set off for far too long when I was a witness. I just don't have the energy to do this EoM.

    I'm curious as to what you hope to gain from your efforts? Nothing can be proven from the bible. You can find "support" for just about anything you want to if you couch it in the right scripture.

  • AllTimeJeff
    AllTimeJeff

    PROVE they are related.

    I mean, if you read "Romeo and Juliet" and then Google "Shakespeare", you will come up with similar references. Are they related in some cosmic fashion?

    So, a local Jewish tribe keeps up written traditions for hundreds and thousands of years, with some common references. And this proves... what?

    Again, your arguements lack compelling arguements. These are mere assumptions that you hope to be accepted so YOU don't have to prove anything. Big difference.

  • EndofMysteries
    EndofMysteries

    Lazy......okay I still won't say what this all means, but I'll tell you what some of the content is and what prophecies are tied to some of these scriptures.

    Combing just these ones, not the many others I can link, if all of these are related, we get this.............. (you decide by looking at the scriptures)

    First you'll see in the first few about a (nation, congregation, crowd, civilization, great multitude, king of north, those loving you) being (whistled, raised up, signaled, etc) who is of (the north, Assyria, long ago, flies of the nile, from the extremities) and shall (flood over, pass through) and (eat, consume, like locusts, outspreading of his wings) against (jerusalem, prostitute, judah, king of south, kain, land of Immanuel) and the ships of kittim will come against him and he will be dejected

    What do I hope to accomplish from this? Help those really looking for answers to learn how to get them from the source itself, and if they 'do' believe in God, they can pray for his guidance. Also, hopefully this will show any who are perhaps learning or taking interpretations from others, a way to check if it's in harmony or not. (Paul commended those who did not just accept what he said, but checked the whole bible)

    I think the whole point of the 'true' ministry, was to get people off of 'milk'(being handfed what things meant), and for them to 'make the truth their own', and learn how to check what was true or not, and have faith in God.

  • AllTimeJeff
    AllTimeJeff

    What if a person prays to god, gets close to her, and doesn't need all the dogmatic maze craze that you suggest?

    I mean, is it necesarry to do it your way? So many others find comfort in faith hope and love, with the greatest of those being love.

  • EndofMysteries
    EndofMysteries

    Just small example, just 2 verses out of the king of the north/south prophecy. People trying to tie the whole thing to world events and such. Yet quite a few other scriptures in the bible almost verbatim say the same thing, worded slightly different, giving another hint. Some may be coincidence and some may not.

    I will say I have learned far more then my whole life as a JW in the past few months, and (it's not my goal, just learn the truth), can scriptually pulverize almost every WT explanation of prophetic events.

    As Paul said, you do not need people to be teaching you! So hope this was of some help for some in their quest!

  • AllTimeJeff
    AllTimeJeff

    Faith, hope and love, and the greatest is love. That is a great passage.

    Twisting scriptures is something that both Jesus and Paul warned about. It is easy to do in the name of fullfilling some kind of "quest".

  • notverylikely
    notverylikely

    First you'll see in the first few about a (nation, congregation, crowd, civilization, great multitude, king of north, those loving you) being (whistled, raised up, signaled, etc) who is of (the north, Assyria, long ago, flies of the nile, from the extremities) and shall (flood over, pass through) and (eat, consume, like locusts, outspreading of his wings) against (jerusalem, prostitute, judah, king of south, kain, land of Immanuel) and the ships of kittim will come against him and he will be dejected

    So...some group from somewhere is somethinged and they get somethinged else and then do something to some other people from somewhere else and then are sad?

    That sounds like the plot of a porno, except they edit out the crying at the end. Usually.

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