Bad Willie,WBTS is falling apart piece by piece.The ones that cannot see this only speed up the process.As there is nothing wrong what is there to fix?So not only do things decay,it is compounded by neglect.Even the the supporters of WBTS are killing it with this attitude.It is only a matter of time and WBTS is their own worst enemy.No one could have inflicted the damage they have done to themselves and I doubt they will stop.The system they had hoped to take down will be here long after they are gone...OUTLAW
QUESTION: will the WTS ever fall? if so, how?
by badwillie 15 Replies latest jw friends
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badwillie
thanks for all the comments. They do seem to be able to cover things up very quickly once they detect a leak. The whole Df'ing threat is also a huge deterant to anyone thinking of becoming more actively militant against them. I, for one, would love to go to my local paper about them,or even leaflet the congregation's territory with my story. But I have my family still in it, and right now I don't want to deal with those things.
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badwillie
I am starting to believe that we may live to see the WTS crumble or at least fragment into different groups, maybe liberal and conservative. When we were back in London, I had a peak at their December KM and it had a whole box explaining why their big expansion that they've been planning and working on for years has now been cancelled. Some mumbo jumbo about the "scene of the world changing"...and, "in light of recent world events" - obviously alluding to the 9/11 attack. The fact is, they are tightening up on corporate spending, and are downsizing. YIPPEEE!!!!
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Pathofthorns
Nice post Runningman
Path
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AMarie
Yadirf:
I must say, your post was very interesting and educational, but I'd like to make one suggestion. If you want people to listen to what you have to say, please avoid saying things such as:
"Although apostates prefer not to believe it of course (because, though having eyes, they can’t see)"
Saying the above tends to divert a person's attention from the point you are making to the nasty insult you make. The only thing people will remeber is what a dick head you are (no offense). It's human nature. So if you are hear to help, please try being a bit more polite.
AMarie
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indireneed
I don't believe that the Watchtower will ever fold completely. Religions don't really ever die, and if they were to, oft times they are simply resurrected. The JWs are an offshoot of arianism and several other branches, so can one really argue that arianism died?
The difference between something like the collapse of communism and the Watchtower are different cases - communism was imposed in the later years and thus fell spectacularly. Socialism on the other hand is alive and well in Scandinavian countries where they vote for it and thus have the ability to change their minds.
While the JWs do horrible things to those who quit, only the children are forced to attend in reality. We see many children leaving, but many other adults going back in. People like the way they feel as a JW, and more power to them. I like the way I feel in spiritual matters. My only problem is the fact that my wife is a JW (which hurts our marriage) and that they try to impose their will on me through preaching.
Anyway, I don't think they'll ever disappear. It's a choice, and it's a group of people who are willing and able to change their minds without letting on to their population. I figure they'll either mainstream (as they have been doing for years, whether by trying to change the mainstream ideas (i.e. blood is bad, bloodless surgery good) or by simply giving up stupid notions like blood, etc.) or they'll collapse into a format more like the Bible Students. Good or bad? Neither, they just exist. Each person must make his own choice and worship his own god. Whether these gods are made up or not is another story.