Love that Starcrash clip. If only MacGruber had the Universe Emperor there by his side.
MOST DRAMATIC MOMENT in Science Fiction History?
by Terry 50 Replies latest jw friends
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nancy drew
foundation series the moon is a harsh mistress
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Terry
Would you believe I've never read Heinlein!
I'm waiting until I'm old enough to appreciate him.
Same is true of Gone with the Wind.
I save certain things for.....later.
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Leolaia
Starcrash the way it was meant to be seen ..... given the MST3K treatment by the good folks at Full Circle Studios:
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BurnTheShips
Would you believe I've never read Heinlein!
Do read "Moon is a Harsh Mistress" at the very least. You for one, will love it. It isn't just science fiction.
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daniel-p
Heinlein is a little like Ayn Rand and Aldous Huxley: a writer who uses a particular genre to convey various themes, with the characters as hollow voiceboxes for either the author himself, or the author's fears and prejudices, with the genre's setting really meaning nothing. It's readable, but you get the sense that the story and people don't realy matter in the face of the particular moral or agenda at hand, and that the author might do better simply writing a non-fiction treatise or manifesto.
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BurnTheShips
You get the sense that DP is full of crap, since Heinlein, along with Clarke and Asimov, was the most successful sci-fi writer of his era. Heinlein's "treatise" or "manifesto" also varied a great deal from one novel to another. It was all part of setting and storytelling, and not always a personal conviction. His characters weren't "hollow," at least not for the sci-fi genre.
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daniel-p
Burns, don't be so sour. I like Heinlein, as I like Rand and Huxley. And a writer being successful has no bearing whatsoever on this, or any other important conversation about literature. Heinlein was a great author, but his "point" was very often ahead of the story itself, unlike Asimov or Clarke. Sorry to hurt your feelings, little guy!
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Pistoff
I am in Asimov's camp; he had a deep impact on not only sci fi, but the overall culture, IMO.
(I used to take out books from the library in the morning, read them during the day at school and turn then back in the same day.)
He authored the 3 laws of Robotics; the large part of the Star Wars series is borrowed from the Foundation Trilogy.
He also wrote I, Robot;,a series of his robot stories; one of them the basis for the movie with Will Smith.
I agree that Heinlein's stories were more political, I still enjoyed them. I like Job the best actually.
Anyone who can worship a trinity and insist that his religion is a monotheism can believe anything... just give him time to rationalize it. [Robert A. Heinlein, JOB: A Comedy of Justice]
