Anybody Up to Analyzing the Parable of the S & G?

by snowbird 20 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    WT finally gave up the notion that this parable referred to giving "aid" to them, primarily by preaching and teaching their doctrines. WT has also admitted that this has a future fulfillment.

    I couldn't agree more.

    So, when He says "nations" are going to be gathered before Him, is Jesus speaking of all nations or Christian nations only?

    I lean toward Christian nations because the "goats" also call Him their Master.

    I also note that the "nations'' seem to have already been judged when the King arrives, because He immediately places them at His right or His left.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    Syl

  • undercover
    undercover

    S & G = sheep and goats for those that don't speak Sylviaese...

  • EndofMysteries
    EndofMysteries

    Where do they give up that teaching?

    And please list the exact scripture you are referring to, because many S & G references and parables in the gospels

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    Matthew 25:31 -33 "When he finally arrives, blazing in beauty and all his angels with him, the Son of Man will take his place on his glorious throne. Then all the nations will be arranged before him and he will sort the people out, much as a shepherd sorts out sheep and goats, putting sheep to his right and goats to his left.

    34 -36 "Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Enter, you who are blessed by my Father! Take what's coming to you in this kingdom. It's been ready for you since the world's foundation. And here's why:

    I was hungry and you fed me,
    I was thirsty and you gave me a drink,
    I was homeless and you gave me a room,
    I was shivering and you gave me clothes,
    I was sick and you stopped to visit,
    I was in prison and you came to me.'

    37 -40 "Then those 'sheep' are going to say, 'Master, what are you talking about? When did we ever see you hungry and feed you, thirsty and give you a drink? And when did we ever see you sick or in prison and come to you?' Then the King will say, 'I'm telling the solemn truth: Whenever you did one of these things to someone overlooked or ignored, that was me—you did it to me.'

    41 -43 "Then he will turn to the 'goats,' the ones on his left, and say, 'Get out, worthless goats! You're good for nothing but the fires of hell. And why? Because—

    I was hungry and you gave me no meal,
    I was thirsty and you gave me no drink,
    I was homeless and you gave me no bed,
    I was shivering and you gave me no clothes,
    Sick and in prison, and you never visited.'

    44 "Then those 'goats' are going to say, 'Master, what are you talking about? When did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or homeless or shivering or sick or in prison and didn't help?'

    45 "He will answer them, 'I'm telling the solemn truth: Whenever you failed to do one of these things to someone who was being overlooked or ignored, that was me—you failed to do it to me.'

    46 "Then those 'goats' will be herded to their eternal doom, but the 'sheep' to their eternal reward." MSG

    Thanks, UC.

    EOM, they gave it up in 1995, along with the "Creator's promise" that the 1914 generation would not pass away.

    Syl

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    Sheep are fluffy... goats are not.

    Sheep are more nice too.

    -Sab

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    One time one letted me pet it.

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    Sabastious!!!

    I'm serious.

    *trying not to LOL*

    Syl

  • AnnOMaly
    AnnOMaly

    WT finally gave up the notion that this parable referred to giving "aid" to them, primarily by preaching and teaching their doctrines.

    They haven't. I remember a recent article re-stating that 'doing good to Christ's brothers' meant supporting them in the kingdom preaching work. I don't have a specific reference atm - WT library is on the other 'puter.

    I lean toward Christian nations because the "goats" also call Him their Master.

    Interesting point about the goats calling Jesus 'Lord,' but if they were gathered before a throne with the great Judge sitting upon it, wouldn't it be a natural form of address anyway?

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    Oh, I see I didn't word that too well.

    At one time, WT taught that doing good to Christ's spiritual brothers meant one was judged as a sheep.

    Syl

  • AnnOMaly
    AnnOMaly

    At one time, WT taught that doing good to Christ's spiritual brothers meant one was judged as a sheep.

    They still do.

    (Added another thought on the previous post, btw.)

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