There were really three arks- scriptures are not lying if they don't tell the complete story. See, Noah's brothers Woah and Soah were on the other two arks. Woah was rumored to be gay. He and [his partner] had the dinosaurs and they broke the ark in some silly fight over a turnip and it sank and they all died. Soah (along with his wife and three daughters and their husbands) had other animals that wound up in Australia. Hey, writing a myth is pretty easy.
Was God over reacting destroying the whole planet in Noah's flood to kill afew evil people...too bad Noah forgot the Unicorns and Dinosaurs according to the Watchtower!
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MrFreeze
OnTheWayOut has finally solved the mystery!
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alice.in.wonderland
“If you really want to understand the world, who we are, and where we came from... science delivers.”
Yes science does deliver and it doesn't contradict the Genesis account.
http://www.icr.org/article/how-could-fish-survive-noahs-flood/
How Could Fish Survive Noah's Flood?
by John D. Morris, Ph.D.
As a creationist geologist, I enjoy speculating about Noah's Flood and its geologic results. If such a flood took place, it would have laid down multiple layers of mud full of the remains of plants and animals which died in the Flood. These layers would be widespread (since the Flood was global) and give evidence of having been laid down rapidly.
In the complex of events and conditions that made up the Flood, certainly there were pockets of fresh and/or clean water at any one time. Remember, it was raining in torrents, and we can expect that the rain was fairly fresh water. Many studies have shown that waters of various temperatures, chemistries, and sediment loads do not tend to mix; they tend to remain segregated into zones. It would be unlikely for any one area to retain such zones for very long during the tumult of the Flood, but on a worldwide scale, some such segregated zones would have existed at any given time. Furthermore, we don't know the tolerance levels of pre-Flood fish for sediment, salt, and temperature. Modern fish have a great variety of responses to different environments. Perhaps before the Flood, fish were even more adaptable.
There is also the possibility that great amounts of vegetation were dislodged from the pre-Flood continents and remained intertwined during the Flood as floating mats. Many creationists feel that the decay and abrasion of these mats are responsible for our major coal seams, but underneath these mats, the turbulence of the surface would have been lessened. Perhaps many fish found shelter and nutrition under them, as insects may have, on the mats themselves.
There was also a supreme being controlling events that had a plan for the survival of the diversity of life as we know it. In a search for answers of the origin of life by an unguided natural process, science often contradicts itself and nullifies its own theories.
http://blogs.chron.com/sciguy/archives/2010/02/not_on_the_origin_of_species_but_the_origin_of_lif.html
Not on the origin of species, but the origin of life
When we speak about the subject of evolution it generally refers to the evolution of new species from older ones, such as the evolution of humans from the last common ancestor humans shared with chimpanzees.
While somewhat controversial, this is not so contentious to people of most religious persuasions. But then there is evolution. (Or, abiogenesis).
“In his lab, Szostak has had some success in trying to replicate life. His group is trying to build self-replicating protocells out of the chemical bath that scientists believe was available when Earth's first life emerged about [3.8 billion] years ago.”http://www.scienceviews.com/dinosaurs/dinofacts.html
After the dinosaurs died out, nearly [65 million] years passed before people appeared on Earth. However, small mammals (including shrew-sized primates) were alive at the time of the dinosaurs. Many scientists who study dinosaurs (vertebrate paleontologists) now think that birds are direct descendants of one line of carnivorous dinosaurs, and some consider that they in fact represent modern living dinosaurs. This theory remains under discussion and shows that there is still much we don't know about dinosaurs.
Throughout the Mesozoic Era, individual dinosaur species were evolving and becoming extinct for various reasons. The unusually massive extinction at the end of the Cretaceous exterminated the last of the dinosaurs, the flying reptiles, and the large swimming reptiles, as well as many other marine animals. There is now widespread evidence that a meteorite impact was at least the partial cause for this extinction.
Something would have had to survive whatever cataclysm exterminated the dinosaurs to result in the diversity of life we have in our time. Interestingly enough, dinosaurs are not a part of evolutionary development as we know it which gives more evidence of creation. Scientists have been trying construct life for quite some time. If it takes the kind of precision discussed in this information (chemical environment) to get the desired results (chemistry on an early Earth might have combined into complicated building blocks of life) it leans in the direction of theistic evolution. That's how I perceive it anyway. -
DaCheech
Many creationists feel that the decay and abrasion of these mats are responsible for our major coal seams, but underneath these mats, the turbulence of the surface would have been lessened. Perhaps many fish found shelter and nutrition under them, as insects may have, on the mats themselves
this is just creationist bullshit
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MrFreeze
Why would a reasonable God ask us to believe in something unreasonable? The flood is unreasonable to believe in.
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alice.in.wonderland
"this is just creationist bullshit"
That's what I like about this forum. Nine times out of ten, you get the Joe Pesci defense as intelligent discourse. It's very funny :)
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TD
Furthermore, we don't know the tolerance levels of pre-Flood fish for sediment, salt, and temperature. Modern fish have a great variety of responses to different environments. Perhaps before the Flood, fish were even more adaptable.
So does he believe in evolution or not? --Sounds like he wants the best of both worlds
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alice.in.wonderland
"So does he believe in evolution or not?"
I don't know. Theists and atheists expect species to adapt. It's something else to suggest traits of survivability will result in an episode of speciation.
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transhuman68
Finally admitting there is something you don't know, AIW?
I nearly fell backwards off my chair with shock when I read that!
And how was the meeting today?
Did they kill the fatted calf for you?
The prodigal daughter returns!
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HintOfLime
I don't know. Theists and atheists expect species to adapt. It's something else to suggest traits of survivability will result in an episode of speciation.
Take an image and change one pixel. Then do it again. And again. Do it 1000 times. 10,000 times. Given enough changes, you change the whole image.
We know life is governed by the genetic code. We know there are small changes in the code with each successive generation.
"Mice and humans each have about 30,000 genes, yet only 300 are unique to either organism. Both even have genes for a tail, even though it's not "switched on" in humans." - CNN Article
Until someone can point out a specific mechanism or barrier by which genetic drift can't drift far enough to become a new species, creationists have no argument. As Thunderf00t put it - the only difference between so-called 'micro-evolution' within a species and 'macro-evolution' creating new species is time scale. The creationist argument seems to be that life can walk 10ft, but not 100ft - but they never describe any mechanism that is prevents it.
Observed Instances of Speciation on Google.
- Lime