Thundarr in post 5 of this thread you mentioned the "hate" word 4/5 times yet all the other posters did not mention it at all, only you and then BANE comes along spewing his usual stuff and throwing the hatred word around it seems Dubs like yourself have far more hatred then the fine folks here that have offered up practical help and advice, some thanks may be nice, sure we hate the lies and dishonesty that spews forth from the WTS, sure we hate to see active members of the WTS in so called good standing who abuse young children , sure we hate an organization that has denied membership of the UN yet held an active role within it, sure we hate the men from your GB that sent innocent brothers to false imprisonment/rape/torture in Malawi, from my experience the hatred that emits from folks like yourself is saddening, stick around you may find love here.