Vatican's New Rules: Ordaining Women a Crime = to Child Molestation
by Justitia Themis 37 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse
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Justitia Themis
And controversially, the new document classifies the attempted ordination of a woman as a canonical crime equal in gravity to molesting minors and heresy. That has outraged advocates of greater rights for women within the Roman Catholic Church, many of them in the U.S.
Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Vatican+announces+rules+abusive+priests/3283491/story.html#ixzz0tnO8RNIs -
StAnn
Women will never be ordained in the Roman Catholic Church. Period. It can't happen. And those who do "ordain" them profane the eucharist, which we believe is the actual body and blood of our Lord, Jesus Christ. We don't take profaning our Lord lightly. It is a major canonical crime to ordain people who aren't eligible to be ordained.
Feminism and the current political climate in the Western World cannot expect the Church to change itself with every societal whim.
BTW, this is not controversial to authentic Catholics. This is only controversial to the hangers-on who are really Protestants and are trying to attack the Church from within.
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Justitia Themis
Considering the Church decided to codify its stance in a document that is supposed to outline its "new" official stance/rules on child abuse, I think it is VERY controversial. In fact, abuse groups are having a FIT about it.
Vatican issues new sex abuse rules; still too weak, victims say
By William Wan
The long-anticipated new rules on sex abuse were issued by the Vatican this morning. In the days and weeks leading up to this, a lot of the details have been known and discussed, so some of it has been expected.
The more controversial decisions, however, came from these inclusions/ommissions from the new rules:
* Does not include "zero-tolerance" policy similar to the one adopted by U.S. bishops that makes it essentially one-strike-your-out for any priest committing pedophile
* Does, however, make attempts to ordain women as a "grave crime" that subject to the same punishment as sex abuse (the perceived equation of ordaining women to molesting children has had much of blogosphere howling)
* Does not mention any mandatory reporting of abuse to police ("If civil law requires you report, you must obey civil law," the Vatican's Monsignor Charles Scicluna told reporters at a press conference. But "it's not for canonical legislation to get itself involved with civil law.") -
beksbks
Feminism and the current political climate in the Western World cannot expect the Church to change itself with every societal whim.
BTW, this is not controversial to authentic Catholics. This is only controversial to the hangers-on who are really Protestants and are trying to attack the Church from within.
Wow, equal to molesting children. What a messed up bunch.
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BurnTheShips
Justitia. Justitia, my favorite Muslim apologist.
I speak as a Catholic here.
Islam.
Where to start?
Women are so covered up in public as to not even be human.
Yet, after your lengthy defenses of Moongod worshippers whose greatest achievement is the semtex belt, you somehow are capable of posting a thread exposing the supposed flaws in the Catholic church related to gender equality in addition to child abuse?
Your duplicity literally makes me feel like emptying my stomach.
No, I do not exaggerate.
You write reams defending a faith that treats its women like property.
REAMS.
Women are equal to men Catholicism, save the position of the priesthood.
And this is a MINISTRY. A service. A sacrifice.
What do our nuns do?
The most famous, influential and beloved Catholic of the 20th century would have to be Mother Teresa.
Followed by Saint Faustina.
I love Saint Faustina a great deal. She has instructed me a little bit, as far as I have been humble enough to listen.
On the other hand.
In Islam, women are chattel.
Remove the "h."
Cattle.
Slavery is alive and well in the world today.
The founder of that faith took a prepubescent child and deflowered it.
He violated a Jewess on the same day he massacred her family.
His followers massacre women as he did, on a mere whiff of suspicion.
Yet, Jesus said: "He that is without sin, cast the first stone."
He stopped the execution of a woman that was faced with death because of suspicion.
Light years apart.
I am a FATHER. A short time ago, I held my two month-old daughter in my arms.
I want her to be FREEEEEE.
SHE SHALL BE FREE.
Understand this:
It will be the working of God in WOMAN that will wreck Islam.
I have received this insight.
WOMAN WILL DESTROY ISLAM.
WOMAN will trample Moon worshippers beneath her feet.
a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.
Here she is, trampling the crescent.
BTS
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Justitia Themis
Muslim apologist.
Muslim aplogist? Tee hee hee Muslims believe in Jehovah. I'm not sure I do! :)
From my Face Book favorite quote:
"Why thus O men of piety, I have returned to sobriety. I am neither a Moslem nor a Hindu/ I am not a Christian, Zoroastrian, nor a Jew. I am neither of the West nor the East...Not of ancient promises/ nor of future prophecy, Not of hellish anguish/ nor of paradisaic ecstasy/ Neither the progeny of Adam, nor Eve/ nor of the world of heavenly make-believe..I eliminated the duality with joyous laughter/Saw the unity of the here, and the hereafter/ Unity is what I sing, unity is what I speak/ Unity is what I know, unity is what I seek. Rumi, 116.
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Justitia Themis
BTW BTS, nice pictures of Mary. Do you know that Muslims' believe that Mary and Jesus were the only humans NOT subject to Satan? That includes Mohammed. :)
Nice way to derail the conversation from the failings of the MODERN (as opposed to those backward Muslims) Catholic Church. ;)
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BurnTheShips
Yes I do know, no it does not matter.
BTS
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Justitia Themis
no it does not matter
THAT I can agree with.