Why do us men do all the bad stuff? (page 2)

Tatiana

Women do their own type of "bad" in the world. Having babies irresponsibly without a father, increases the population most likely to be criminals.

I can't even begin to say how ignorant this comment is! I raised 6 children alone! My ex-jw husband decided it was too much for him to handle! Was it MY fault that he didn't have the BALLS to stick around and care for what he helped make?????

It takes two to make a baby. Because a man runs out on a woman, married or not, when it's time to own up to responsiblity is not her fault.

April
"Love never dies." Voivodul Vlad Draculea (from Bram Stoker's Dracula-1992)
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Ranchette

I believe it has much more to do with testostorone and chemicals in the brain than any thing else.

Men are stronger and naturally more agressive than women because of their differences in physical makeup.Some men have too much.
Women are usually more gentle and nurturing because of their physical makeup.
We do see acceptions to this and it is very scary to see a woman act out so unnaturaly!

I have learned through experience though that women can be very mean but usually in non violent ways.This is also due to hormones but in this case of the female kind.
Women can have fluctions in their hormones that can have dramatic effects on their temprement.

Also the chemicals and nuro transmitters in the brain of both sexes can become unbalanced causing violent and unbalanced behavior.

I know some of you are more knowledgable than me on this so I'll leave it at this.

Englishman

Er, 'scuse me, but does no-one remember Margaret Thatcher?

Englishman.

Bring on the dancing girls!

proplog2

Tatiana:

"The taking of offence rests in the heart of the stupid one"

You didn't have your children irresponsibly. You got married and did your best. Even female chimps avoid mating with the males that are overly aggressive and angry looking.

Xena

Having babies irresponsibly without a father

hhhmmm last time I looked it took two to make a baby...now where are those men that "helped"...oh PRISON most likely. So not only are they irresponsible but violent lawbreakers.

Xena who can sterotype with the best of them...

The taking of offence rests in the heart of the stupid one"

Tat...recognized this??? Typical blameshifting response...I said something stupid but now I am going to try and make it appear that you are the stupid one...

Now back to the original subject...

I think typically most women value life more BECAUSE they give birth. lol 36 hours of labor and you will look at life a whole lot differently. Of course there are exceptions to every rule! Men tend to be more aggressive possibly due to messages sent in society that "real men" are this way. Women seem to be pressured by society to look a certain way and men to act a certain way...maybe this contributes to the difference.

I think SixofNine made a good point about power too! Men traditionally have been in positions of power and had more opportunites to abuse it...lol much as I would like to think women would do a better and more compassionate job..who really knows for sure???

Tatiana

It doesn't matter if I was married or not. And I don't think I'm stupid to take offence!

Two lie down to make a child. Married or not, it is the man who does evil if he leaves the woman to be responsible for the child herself. Which far too many of them do, and I think is a big contributer to the collapse of family values and the high crime rate. Too many children with no father figure anywhere in sight.

Suppose a woman chooses a man to love. They are together for four or five years. They are engaged. She's on the pill, but accidentally she gets pregnant. He decides HE doesn't want kids. He leaves. She doesn't believe in abortion. Another child with no father. Did she choose wisely? In her eyes, she did. What happened? Why would she be abandoned?

Are you saying it's the female's fault for choosing the wrong mate?

I will NEVER be able to understand how it is so easy for some men to just walk away from their own flesh and blood. Maybe the same reason it's so easy for some men to "murder 10 million people at a crack."

April
"Love never dies." Voivodul Vlad Draculea (from Bram Stoker's Dracula-1992)
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hungry4life

"Women do their own type of "bad" in the world. Having babies irresponsibly without a father, increases the population most likely to be criminals".

Boy are you way off the mark. You say that you didn't intend to offend but this is a tough one to swallow. Whether the baby was created irresponsibly or not it was both a woman and a man that were involved. For a parent to raise and love a child even when the other parent refuses to acknowledge responsibility is an act of true love and caring.

I don't think that it is strength alone that makes the difference in men and womens ability to bad. At least not where it is legal to purchase and own guns, this equalizes power between men and women. Yet you very rarely read of woment commiting violent crimes or using weapons with a premeditation to harm (armed robbery, highschool shootings,kidnapping, first degree murder),I beleive it must be in our wiring and of course couple that with society's expectations of male and female roles and you can see that their is a difference.

I am curious whether the fact that a woman has given birth to a child increases her respect for life. I know that I was a totally changed person after my daughter was born, yet even before I was not predisposed with an intent to harm others. Does anybody know if women who do commit serious crimes are more or less likely to have had children? Have their been studies on this?

AGuest

May you all have peace... and may I respond? Thank you!

Wow, Proplog2... what a statement. And what a 'crock'! You are assuming, then, that most if not all criminals have no fathers, and that all fathers are good fathers. For the latter, in what 'world', other than JAH's, dear one?

People are people... dear people. There are good men and good women, and bad men and bad women. There are sensitive women and sensitive men, and insensitive women and insensitive men. There are bad people from good homes, and good people from bad homes. There are good 2-parent familes and bad 2-parent families, as well as good 1-parent families and bad 1-parent families.

It is only in the eyes of ignorant women that men do 'all' the bad stuff, just as it is in the eyes of ignorant men that women in general are to blame. Like green people blame blue people, and purple people blame pink people. It's easy to do that, because THEN... one doesn't have to look at oneself... which, dear one, is a VERY hard thing to do.

Is that to say that there are really no bad husbands/wives and it is always the fault of BOTH? No, indeed. In many cases, and indeed MOST cases, one IS to blame more than the other. But that must be taken on an individual case-by-case basis, THAT particular relationship, and so cannot truthfully be applied in the case of men... vs... women, and vice versa. For there are 'good' husbands and 'good' wives... and 'bad' husbands'... as well as 'bad' wives. There are good children and bad children, and good parents... and bad parents. People... are people. And men AND women... are people.

I bid you peace.

A slave of Christ,

SJ

Francois

I think you're fogetting:

Eve, who started it all down the wrong path,
Cleopatra,
Catherine the Great
Ms. Mao tse Dung
Hillary Clinton
Lizzie Borden

Women do the really horriffic stuff, and we get the bad press.

Francois

Ranchette

Aguest,

I just wanted to clarify so there are no misunderstandings.
I never meant to imply or agree that men do all the bad stuff.
I hope it was understood that I was pointing out differences in men and women and some of the reasons that both sexs do these things.

The fact still remains there are far more men in prison than women although I don't have any stats to back up this statement.

Ranchette

Why do us men do all the bad stuff?

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