Yep, heard you for myself and that's exactly how you sound to me
lmao, see I got proof.
Dishonering Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr
by Dark Side 127 Replies latest social current
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snowbird
Well said, Serenity.
I grew up in abject poverty.
I made a vow early on that I was going to improve my life.
I made a choice that I would go to college, get married, have only 2 kids, buy a house, not fuss and fight like my parents did.
I've been married twice (can't seem to get that part to work), have two daughters, and a home of my own.
I'm not rich by any means, but then, I'm not poor, either.
IT CAN BE DONE!!!
Syl
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lisaBObeesa
Lisa, I'm not trying to convince you of anything.
I'm just stating bald facts and asking a question: HOW do you educate people with that mindset?
I understand what you are saying. It's quite difficult (impossible?) to get through to and educate a 36 year old with 12 kids who is a drug addict and a whore... But.......that mindset wasn't there at her birth, you know? Even when they are 6 or 7 years old kids don't have that mindset, even the ones from really bad neigborhoods. No little 7 year old girl thinks, "Boy I'd like to grow up, I want to be a whore." Also, 7 year olds WANT to be educated. All of them. They all want to be able to read, to be smart, to learn about the world. It's so wonderful to see.
The 'mindset' comes later.
IMO, the education of those very young minds is the key. Education education education. And it's going to have to be done without the parents helping because they can't or won't. The best way to get to these kids is to get to them early. Quality, research based education all the way from kindergarten to 12th grade. Saddly that is not what our disadvantaged students get.
It takes more resouces to educate disadvantaged at-risk students than it takes to educate students from wealthy or middle class families. That's just a fact. Saddly, our society gives them LESS resources.
And that really gets me angry. They should at least get equal resources. But no.
Yeah, but at what point do we stop coddling the adults who continue to make horrible choices, and start holding them responsible?
For the woman with the 12 kids at some point she's got to start living in the here and now and figure out how to move forward. Making excuses for her doesn't help her.
I didn't say to coddle adults and not hold the resposible.
I said to educate them.
I said I can understand how she ended up where she is. I think if I had had to run away as a child, and if I had had to support myself in her neighborhood, I'm not so sure I wouldn't have fallen into the same mess she did. I have empathy for her situation. I'm not saying she gets a pass. I don't think I'm making excuses for her.
I'm saying let's, as a society, poor the needed resources into educating her 12 children, so that maybe they understand their potential to be productive members of society and have less painful lives than their mother.
(I probably get too fired up over this subject. thanks for listening to my rant about public education.)
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snowbird
I quite agree with you about the education, Lisa-Lisa.
Boy, you really get riled, don't you?
LOL.
I'm just wondering how to educate the kids when the parents don't make the effort to send them to school.
That's all.
Syl
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beksbks
I'm just wondering how to educate the kids when the parents don't make the effort to send them to school.
Therein lies the crux.
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beksbks
PS Lisa I like you more every day!
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snowbird
LOL.
So do I!
Syl
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lisaBObeesa
Boy, you really get riled, don't you?
Yes, I'm a bit... excitable I suppose. I appreciate you all for letting me be me. Thanks for that.
PS Lisa I like you more every day!
LOL. So do I! Syl
I like you all, too!
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Dark Side
You turned this thread into a discussion about Bill Cosby?
Jesus Christ. 6 pages. Fucking amazing. The lefties on this board are like cockroaches. Actually, lefties everywhere are like cockroaches
Al Sharpton accused Glenn Beck of dishonoring Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. by holding a rally on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial on the anniversary of Dr. King's "Dream" speach on August 28, 1963. 10 years ago, Sharpton held a rally at the very same location.
Sharpton's rally was clearly based on hatred and racism. I challenge everyone on this board to demonstrate the same anger, hatred and racism shown at Glenn Beck's rally last weekend.
AGAIN
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miseryloveselders
You turned this thread into a discussion about Bill Cosby?
Jesus Christ. 6 pages. Fucking amazing. The lefties on this board are like cockroaches. Actually, lefties everywhere are like cockroaches
Al Sharpton accused Glenn Beck of dishonoring Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. by holding a rally on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial on the anniversary of Dr. King's "Dream" speach on August 28, 1963. 10 years ago, Sharpton held a rally at the very same location.
Sharpton's rally was clearly based on hatred and racism. I challenge everyone on this board to demonstrate the same anger, hatred and racism shown at Glenn Beck's rally last weekend.
AGAIN
Would you prefer we discuss Theo?