by proplog2 27 Replies latest jw friends
Gozz.
Or you could've seen it 'looking' into the future. That's a possibility..
No that doesn`t work.
It is against physical, mathematical, logical and natural laws God has given.
A prophecy can only be fulfilled, if YOU - or a higher being through that you was given the message - is able and have the power to let it fulfill !!
The only exception would be a "time-travel" into the future (and returning, of course).
Ask Mr. Stephen Hawkings. Maybe it`s possible...lol
Do you really have to be "all-knowing" to predict the future. What if the events that are happening on earth are rather typical for planets with our formation. What if you had a data base of thousands of planets - perhaps millions? We're still not talking about "all-knowing" but something like "very-knowing". Do you think there might be some mathematical way of analyzing the data that would make some things more predictable?
Do you think it's unusual that civilization has advanced the most in the temperate zones of the earth? Don't humans tend to like areas that don't get too hot or too cold? Wouldn't you expect more creativity as the ambitious and discontented peoples of the world migrated out of the tropics and interacted in those areas of the world that accommodated the growing of grains?
Then there are those people who liked the excitement of the "new" who perched themselves on the shores of vast bodies of water. They became sophisticated at finding unique items to trade or sell. Is it coincidental that Britain and Japan , both islands off the mainland, have become leaders in commerce.
Now look at the world and see two islands. The Eurasian-African Island and the North-Central-South American Island. Would you have predicted that some innovative people would likely cross the Atlantic and be inclined toward commerce? Abundant resources, isolation, favorable climate guaranteed the success of the New World.
Is it just coincidence that the Northern climates were breeding grounds of collectivism? Is it strange that the tropics where the "tomorrow" philosophy dominates have not been good at evolving into enduring nations?
How hard is it to figure that the world would arrange itself into two camps - one concerned with capitalism(money) the other socialism(collective). Isn't this kind of a Yin/Yang thing. Don't forget the little white circle in the Yin and the dark circle in the Yang. Nature seems to like two super-poles and two sub poles. So Europe is Capitalistic with a strong undercurrent of Socialism. Asia is Socialistic with a strong undercurrent of Capitalism.
Zoom forward and you have two competitors. The US and Russia. The US is rich Babylon the Great sitting as a queen over the whole world. The US has been blessed because two of its largest neighbors are the Atlantic and the Pacific. Russia's claim to fame is losing 20 million people ridding the world of Nazis. The only way a land locked cold climate country can gain influence in the world is by being tough. The military has been supreme in the Soviet Union. Even though they have a depleted army, they still are taken somewhat seriously because they have enough nuclear weapons to obliterate any enemy.
Don't write off Russia because its economy is bad. Its always been bad. Countries that have the least to lose are the most dangerous. Don't forget Germany after WWI.
Maybe this is the typical course of events for a planet with our configuration. How much fine tuning would be necessary to bring things to a head. The whole Bible focuses on "the end". As much as everyone here hates the fact that JW's keep preaching the "END". That just happens to be an important theme of the Bible. But it is more than the end ... it's about intervention at some critical point to save man from annihilation.
Our benefactors may not be some all knowing God but some "very-knowing" entities of some unknown dimension who have a policy of minimum interference.
Bump
I expect to leave JWD permanently within a few days.
I figured this thread is representative of what I have tried to say on this forum.
Some of these ideas may prove useful next month.
Hey proplog? Get help. Seriously. Delusions of grandeur are a sign of schizophrenia. Not knocking you at all, but, uhh, get help, ok buddy?
Avishai:
I have none of the symptoms of schizophrenia. No visions. No voices. Too old. Schizophrenia usually shows itself late teens early twenties. Sometimes it becomes evident in late 40's.
But my wife and grown kids and many intelligent friends find me normal and enjoy my company.
Even if I were schizophrenic that would have no bearing on the plausibility of the scenario I'm suggesting.
I take your concern for my welfare as veiled ridicule.
propolog2
Bump
I expect to leave JWD permanently within a few days.
I figured this thread is representative of what I have tried to say on this forum.
Some of these ideas may prove useful next month.
Its such a shame that you are leaving. I'm getting to the part of my course wherein we are studying how human struggle, difference and debate informs and expands our thinking. If posters like you leave who are we going to discuss and debate with? I guess I'll have to go and get a life
i think your a fruitcake proplog2
Not veiled ridicule at all. I had a stepfather with late onset schizophrenia, I'm familiar with both adolescent and late onset. Many of your posts, not just the above strike me as delusional. Probably should have said it in a pm though, and for that I truly apologize. But, I let the cat outta the bag, so I might as well have the cojones to answer here.
Quietly leaveing:
I too have enjoyed my time on this forum. Truth is what can be defended. In the process of defending my ideas I have abandoned some ideas and others have been confirmed.
There are rules for good argumentation. Very few on here are good at it. They have no rebuttal and end up making wise cracks and personal attacks. I always make it clear to people that just want to ridicule that they aren't really addressing my arguments. If they persist I abandon the thread.
There is a certain culture here and I have seen it diverge from civility. Some of the most engaging and challenging individuals have seen this happen and have reduced their participation. I'm not talking about people who are JW apologists.
I would love to stay on here but - the returns are diminishing.
KW13: What a kind thing to say. I actually love fruit cake.
