I see "Jesus" on the middle guy, I see "Ptah" on the right-hand guy, but who the heck is "Astar Saran"??? And why are there UFO's floating near the two end guys???
It almost looks like a hybridization of Christianity and Scientology...
Those silly MORMANS! They believe that they are going rule their own PLANET!
by sabastious 27 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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theMadJW
Morans, Mermen, Morons...or Mormons....heh
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theMadJW
HMMM!
What about a Split-Personality God(s) of Love that tortures billions forever?
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Cold Steel
Actually, Mormons told me that they would be gods of their own universe...a little more lofty.
Actually, the LDS church ("Mormons") has not taken a position on this. What it has said is that what we're undergoing on Earth is a process. We aren't the first and we aren't the last. According to one of the extra-biblical books of LDS canon:
And behold, the glory of the Lord was upon Moses, so that Moses stood in the presence of God, and talked with him face to face. And the Lord God said unto Moses: For mine own purpose have I made these things. Here is wisdom and it remaineth in me. And by the word of my power, have I created them.... And worlds without number have I created; and I also created them for mine own purpose.... And the first man of all men have I called Adam, which is many. But only an account of this earth, and the inhabitants thereof, give I unto you. For behold, there are many worlds that have passed away by the word of my power. And there are many that now stand, and innumerable are they unto man; but all things are numbered unto me, for they are mine and I know them.
And it came to pass that Moses spake unto the Lord, saying: Be merciful unto thy servant, O God, and tell me concerning this earth, and the inhabitants thereof, and also the heavens, and then thy servant will be content. And the Lord God spake unto Moses, saying: The heavens, they are many, and they cannot be numbered unto man; but they are numbered unto me, for they are mine. And as one earth shall pass away, and the heavens thereof even so shall another come; and there is no end to my works, neither to my words. For behold, this is my work and my glory -- to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man. (Moses 1:31-39)
It's one thing to deride the beliefs of others, but there are very few eschatological beliefs of any kind that can't be ridiculed, which is the point of this post. "Mormons," by the way, is spelled with an "o" and not an "a". The church does believe that Man can become ONE with God in carrying out His work and His glory. But nothing in the church canon indicates that a man will get his own planet, galaxy or solar system. It does, however, hold to the idea that Man is not just an accident that occurred because of poor planning on God's part.
In many Jehovah's Witness publications, people are portrayed as going on endless family reunions. One recent acticle stated that Man was intended for this kind of puerile existence FOREVER! The LDS faith contends there are many glories, or degrees that can be attained in the world to come. And even the lowest "surpasses all understanding." So the idea of spending billions of years chasing butterflies needs to be examined by our JW brethren.
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theMadJW
The Book of Morman is an EXTREMELY clever counterfeit Bible....
The flaw is that Joe Smith never knew what the BIBLE taught; he thought it taught church dogma (Trinity, immortal soul, etc), so such elements in it, clearly show the source. (NOT God...)
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brotherdan
Silly JWs...they think their anointed are going to rule THIS planet!
The Watchtower is an EXTREMELY lame counterfeit Bible.
The flaw is that Charles Russell never knew what the BIBLE taught; he thought it taught church dogma (pyramids, occult communication, god living on a star in the Pleiades system), so such elements in it, clearly show the source. (NOT God...)
(That was for you MadJW. You point the finger at yourself)
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JimmyPage
Silly Mormons.
Wait a minute, maybe they're onto something.
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brotherdan
Gennifer Goodwin...yum...
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zarco
Maybe the best judgement of the Mormans is what do they produce, what do they leave behind so that others can build upon.
They build businesses
Their children are mostly college grads
They seem to have better retention numbers than the Ws (Pew Study)
I am not a Morman fan, but given the choice between JWs and the Mormans - I would take the Mormans everytime
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Cold Steel
Well, you've got a lot of folks who disagree. The Book of Mormon does teach the immortality of the soul (as do many first century texts), but it does not teach the Trinity if, indeed, you can define it. Joseph Smith also knew things about Old World geography that simply weren't known when the Book of Mormon was published. The author of the first chapter, for example, identified a place known as Nahom, where Ismael was buried. Not only was there a place called NHM at the correct spot, but in 1996, archeologists discovered it was a burial spot. Following the book's geographical directions, it also correctly reported a perennial stream of water that dated back to 600 B.C. as well as granite walls that match the description given by Nephi. Following the directions further leads one to the only place in the region where a ship could be built and launched, as well as grains, honey, ore, cliff areas (as described by Nephi). All of these are detailed in the videos JOURNEY OF FAITH (Volumes 1 & 2).
You can also read other evidences here.
And some general information here. You can also find out more about the so-called Trinity teachings in the Book of Mormon and other issues here. Methodist scholar Dr. Margaret Barker takes the Book of Mormon very seriously and has made a number of favorable comments about it -- something I wouldn't expect had it been written by some country bumpkin. In any event, some people think the Bible teaches the doctrine of the Trinity; so I wouldn't be surprised that some people would think the Book of Mormon teaches it.
There's more to the Book of Mormon than just reading a few anti-Mormon sites. Unlike the Jehovah's Witnesses, the Mormons have a tremendous apologetics group. You should probably take some time reading up on the topic before just taking ill-informed potshots.
