GB says NO SPORTS for JWs??!!WHAT??HUh?!!

by plmkrzy 49 Replies latest jw friends

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy

    -------------------‘s post the other day got me
    thinking about all the things that really bugged
    me about the WTs. One of the last things I heard
    the society added to their list of do DONot's!
    was Most Sports!?!! Especially the really fun ones.
    I was at a book study a year or so ago and the
    sisters were talking about some sport activity and
    it prompted me to mention that my son wanted to go
    parasailing. I was thinking of asking if anyone
    new anyone that does that because I new nothing
    about it other than it looked really cool.
    Then I noticed they weren’t really smiling anymore
    and one of the sisters directed all her attention
    to me and began telling me (like I was a little kid)

    “You know, the society frowns upon any kind of
    sport or activity that is reckless and unnecessarily
    places your life in danger” “Some sports are listed
    in one of the awake magazines”(I think)”and among
    them listed right at the top was parasailing”
    “Their view on the subject is that Jehovah gave us
    the wonderful gift of life and by foolishly and
    recklessly putting our bodies and even our lives in
    harms way only for a good time is being selfish and
    disrespectful to Jehovah, and as true Christians we
    are obligated to head the advice of the GB because
    its through their knowledge and guidance we are able
    to remain in harmony with Jehovah”

    I think I was dumbfounded for several minutes.
    I think the last thing she said about it was”
    of course you are not baptized yet so you’re
    free to decide for yourself what is best for you”.
    But if you were baptized now you could count
    on the brothers wanting to discuss this with you”.
    Or something like that.

    BOY! I don’t remember Ever someone telling
    me I couldn’t participate in most sports!
    Except maybe my mom, when I was three!
    How a bout that. I wonder if the society
    has filled all the animals in on this?
    Sorry bears, no more wrestling, you could get hurt”

    Any sports buffs here?
    Has anyone been told they couldn’t ski anymore????
    What about golf?
    Is that still ok?
    plm

  • nytelecom1
    nytelecom1

    BOOHAHAOHAOHOAHOH
    HAOHAOOAHOHAOAHOHHAOHAHBOOOOAHAH

    you antis are a joke....need i
    explain to you how me and group of my brothers
    hit the terrain park on our Burtons, K2's etc this
    past weekend in Vermont?....

    you shouldnt ski any way...its for fags...

    snowboarders......live to ride

  • TheOldHippie
    TheOldHippie

    I compete in horse riding, jumping that is ............
    So what?

  • teenyuck
    teenyuck

    plm-

    You are correct-sports are discouraged.

    It is not the danger level that the witnesses care about...it is the "bad association/spoil useful habits" that they care about.

    Ask any "Brother" who, as a high school student, could have been on the football or track team. Oh no. You will encounter bad associations and it will detract from your ministry work.

    nytel-how many non-JW snow bunnies have you rode the lift with?

  • AjaxMan
    AjaxMan

    plm,

    From what I understand, no high risk sports like para-sailing, bungee-jumping, sky-diving, wrestling, martial arts and boxing because they can cause bodily harm.

    I think other sports like marksmanship and chess (though it's not quite a sport) are no-no's. The first one because (in their view) promotes killing, the second one because (also in their view) promotes warfare.

    There may be some other sports that the WTS banned. Can anyone else post which other sports besides the ones that I mention?

    Thanks.

    Ajax

  • GinnyTosken
    GinnyTosken

    Summary:

    "Does the Bible categorically rule out all sports? No."

    "After researching matters thoroughly-and talking things over with your parents-it may well be concluded that you would be better-off steering clear of extreme thrill sports."

    Aspersions cast on:

    Bungee jumping
    rock climbing
    paragliding
    white-water rafting
    sky surfing
    elevator surfing
    tunneling
    subway surfing
    stair diving
    skydiving
    motorcycling
    scuba diving
    hiking

    I love the example of Jesus, too. When Satan asked him to leap from the temple battlements, he didn't put Jehovah to the test by bungee jumping.

    "Young People Ask . . . Thrill Sports-Should I Take a Chance?"

    g94 7/8 10-11

    "THIS will be the most terrifying moment of your life," you are told as you stand quivering on the platform. The countdown begins: "Five, four, three, two, one-JUMP!" The fall takes your breath away. You hurtle toward a seemingly certain death, but suddenly you feel the abrupt pull of an elastic cord. An exhilarating feeling of relief sweeps over you. You have survived!

    Bungee jumping. The sport has attracted an estimated one to two million participants in the United States alone. It is just one of many sports that have recently skyrocketed in popularity-rock climbing, paragliding, white-water rafting, and sky surfing, to name a few. "The 90's are the decade of the thrill sport," says one bungee-jump promoter.

    Risky activities are not the domain solely of the affluent. Urban thrill seekers engage in such dangerous (and illegal) feats of daring as elevator surfing (riding the tops of moving elevators), tunneling (scampering through the duct systems of large buildings), subway surfing (riding on the roofs of moving subway cars), and stair diving (sliding down greased stairways).

    What's the Attraction?

    "I'll try anything that gets me scared," says young Norbert. "I enjoy all sports-baseball, basketball-but bridge jumping got me scared! It's totally unique." Young Douglas agrees. "Regular sports are cool, but they're calculated," he says. "You're always tied down. I like the feeling of falling. And the speed . . . You never have that feeling with other sports."

    Thrill sports go beyond challenging your athletic ability; they bring you face-to-face with death! Participants seem to enjoy the adrenaline high produced. Some experts claim that certain people are genetically programmed to be Type-T, or thrill-seeking, personalities. However, most youths engage in some kind of risk taking; it's their way of testing limits and developing self-confidence.

    Unfortunately, youths do not always use good judgment in doing so. "The beauty of young men is their power," says Proverbs 20:29. But some appear to think that their power is unlimited. Dr. David Elkind says that teenagers often believe "they are special and unique-exempt from the laws of probability that apply to others. It is this belief in being special, in being wrapped in a cloak of invulnerability, that contributes most to teenagers' decisions to take risks." Dr. Robert Butterworth similarly notes: "When you do something like skydiving, it gives you a sense of defying the odds, controlling your own fate."

    However, risk taking can also be prompted by darker motives. In her book Childstress!, author Mary Susan Miller indicates that many young daredevils take foolish risks because they simply cannot cope with the stresses of their lives. Thrill sports may thus reveal self-destructive or even suicidal tendencies. "They deliberately put themselves in dangerous situations," says Miller, "as if defying fate to do the job for them."

    Really Risky?

    Whatever their appeal, thrill sports can be dangerous. 'So can crossing the street,' some argue. But someone crossing the street is not deliberately seeking danger or thrills. And while many sports, such as bungee jumping, have fairly good safety records, things can go wrong. Mark Bracker, M.D., put it this way: "With a lot of these high-risk sports, when something goes wrong it can be catastrophic. The higher the thrill, usually the higher the risk, whether it's jumping out of airplanes or hang gliding or motorcycle riding." One 20-year-old youth bungee jumped from a hot-air balloon hovering 190 feet [58 m] above the ground. The problem? His cord was 260 feet [79 m] long! He leapt to a terrible death.

    Granted, some activities, such as motorcycling, may be enjoyed in a relatively safe and moderate manner. But one expert in sports medicine says of thrill seekers: "As their skills get better and better, they pick something harder and harder, and they end up with an injury." One youth confessed: "I'm an addict. It's harder now to get that fear level and the rush."

    For Christians?

    Does the Bible categorically rule out all sports? No. It is foolish extremes that are condemned. As recorded at Ecclesiastes 7:17, Solomon asked: "Why should you die when it is not your time?"

    'Life is short. Play hard,' urges one advertisement for athletic footwear. But we have a responsibility to ourself, to those who love us, and to our Creator to treasure our life. Life is a gift from God. (Psalm 36:9) In Bible times serious penalties could be imposed if a life was taken accidentally. (Exodus 21:29; Numbers 35:22-25) God's people were thereby encouraged to avoid needless risks.-Compare Deuteronomy 22:8.

    Christians today likewise have an obligation to show respect for life. Would it be appropriate to pursue a sports activity that might expose you to unnecessary risks? When Satan the Devil tried to tempt Jesus, he argued that the angels would catch Jesus if he hurled himself down from the temple battlement. Jesus responded: "You must not put Jehovah your God to the test."-Matthew 4:5-7.

    Besides, as strong and healthy as you may feel, you simply are not impervious to harm. It is unrealistic to reason: 'It can't happen to me.' The Bible warns us that 'time and unforeseen occurrence befall us all.'-Ecclesiastes 9:11.

    Looking Before You Leap

    It makes sense to think seriously about the possible consequences of leaping off a crane, of diving out of a plane, or of doing anything that might seem excessively risky. Do not simply rely on hearsay or on the enthusiastic reports of other youths. (Proverbs 14:15) Get the facts.

    For example, just what is the accident rate for a particular sport? What safety precautions are taken? One expert says regarding scuba diving: "[People think that] going from the medium of air to water is dangerous . . . . But it is only dangerous if you do it without proper instruction." So you should also ask, What training and equipment are needed for this sport? Are there any legitimate benefits, such as exercise? Are any risks incidental, or is the primary objective of the sport to defy death?

    If the latter is the case, you might ask yourself why risk taking so appeals to you. Is it simply a response to boredom or stress? Then why not find a safer, more wholesome way of dealing with such feelings? The book Teenage Stress reminds us that risk taking is a "dangerous and ultimately ineffective method of coping with the negative side of stress."-Compare Proverbs 21:17.

    After researching matters thoroughly-and talking things over with your parents-it may well be concluded that you would be better-off steering clear of extreme thrill sports. Your parents may prefer that you pursue activities that seem to be less inherently life threatening, such as bicycling, skating, skiing, and snorkeling, to name a few. Of course, even relatively safe activities can be dangerous if proper precautions are not taken.

    This happened to a small group of Christian youths who decided to go for a hike. They veered off the trail and began climbing a narrow edge on a steep cliff. Before long they found themselves virtually trapped, unable to go safely either forward or backward. The youth leading the group then heard a sudden noise. Two of his companions had fallen to their death. How tragic!

    So please be cautious! 'Rejoice in your youth,' enjoying the strength and vigor with which you are blessed. (Ecclesiastes 11:9) But before accepting an invitation to do something risky, do what young Brian does. He says: "I ask myself, 'How would Jehovah feel about it? How would it reflect upon my attitude toward the gift of life he has given me?'" Yes, weigh the risks, search your motives. Life is too precious to do otherwise.

    Ginny
  • nytelecom1
    nytelecom1

    i am there for one reason only!!!

    to shred the park and complete my 360 off the
    half pipe...

    i will ride the lift with any not witness if it gets me to
    the top of the hill faster..sucka

  • nelly136
    nelly136

    vaguely remember the avoid life threatening sports thing but would it really boil down to respecting your life or whether its more the fear of losing yet another regular publisher and xamount of hours a month from stats, if a person stepped off of a path in front of a car because they forgot to look be guilty of not respecting their own life? accidents can happen to any of us, any parachuters I've known have taken all reasonable precautions to wear a parachute before they jump.Personally i think people who engage in 'dangerous' sports apart from the exception probably take more than extra notice of safety guidelines, they probably spend more time preparing for 'in the event of' scenarios than any of us who cross the road or get in our cars as part of everyday life and become complacent that lights work brakes work etc
    I can remember my dad giving up chess as it was frowned on,
    I think the borg just likes to keep people in line and cut down any possible chance that they may spend quality time doing something they actually enjoy rather than spending yet another hour on the doors or
    in personal study reinforcing that this life isnt to be enjoyed while they toil to reach the golden carrot next one.If enjoyment isnt curbed then it gives a person far too much time to think freely.
    nelly

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy

    nytelecom1

    How nice for you.
    And thank you for your remarks
    But WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE GOVERNING BODY?
    YOUR calling me a joke? I DIDN"T MAKE UP THAT STUPID RULE!
    pause...breath...
    back to normal
    I'll be happy to call her up and ask her for that
    information. It was supplied by The Watchtower Bible
    And Tract Society
    You and your brothers must have
    missed that SUNDAY TALK

  • LB
    LB

    I am a scuba diver and I actually did stop doing it for several years, trying to fit into the borg mould. It is the bad association that is thier main concern for school sports and then it's the "respect" you show for the life Jehovah gave you. Yes Jehovah gave us life and the WBTS took it away.


    Never Squat With Yer Spurs On

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