by Bangalore 60 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Nope, people who preach and try to convert my fellow humans to the idea that a Supreme Being burns people don't get my vote-
Would you let your child go to a Church known for abusing children or would you warn the public. Hell Fire is mental and emotional abuse and the groups and individuals who promote it deserve all of the expose we can bring to the fight.
*sigh*
Syl
You're inconsistent Syl-
Thanks for the love Sylvia :)
Designs, rant on if it makes you feel better. It isn't going to bring back the money you say the christian cheated you out of.
I have no beef with you. Sure, you carry on like a thorn in my side most of the time but then the Gospel is an offence to many and I don't take it personally, your beef is with the Author.
It seems for a long time your two line posts are arrows best avoided so I just skip them. I certainly won't be silenced because of a little flaming, rather encouraged .
Any time you want to engage in meaningful discussion I am here. I wish you peace. IMHO you can only find lasting peace from the Prince and I hope you find it.
Blessings,
Stephen
Would you let your child go to a Church known for abusing children or would you warn the public.
The sigh was over the above statement/question.
We are not children.
We can choose our own path without having someone point it out to us.
You're beginning to sound very Watchtowerish.
Syl
You're beginning to sound very Watchtowerish.
IMHO, you can get out of the WT but getting the WT out of YOU is impossible without Divine assistance.
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
Blessings,
Stephen
Stephen the point is your Gospel, so called, is a flawed concept patched on over the centuries by an abusive church hierarchy. Ideals equal to actions and that has been proven over the centuries by the followers of the concept you got sucked into.
We learned that lesson from our time as JWs, a concept that preaches god needs to feel like the almighty by wiping out civilization is not much different than, but less so, the groups who still cling to an antiquated concept of a god who needs to torture humans to feel like the almighty.
That is an abusive religion.
Shame on you for preaching it.
podobear-you either have to accept all their doctrine or you are disqualified as the wts spokesman.no such thing as revisiting-thats their job.
jehovahsheep: Who says I am a spokesman for the wts?? I left in 1986... so how could I possibly be a spokesman for them? Further, because I no longer associate (I was never disfellowshipped) does not mean I have trashed ALL the teachings. Bizarre that you cannot accept that folks can still maintain a faith but not be "god-slotted"!
The teaching of the Bible on the resurrection is crystal clear.
Podo
THE FUNERAL SERVICES.
1 December 1916 Watchtower.
THE FUNERAL SERVICES
The remains of Pastor Russell--announcement of whose death was published in the last issue of THE WATCH TOWER--arrived in New York from the West on Friday morning, November 3, accompanied by his traveling secretary, Menta Sturgeon.
When the body reached Chicago, a large number of friends had assembled at the station, and as it was necessary to transfer the casket from one depot to another, a long procession of automobiles bearing the sorrowing friends formed and followed through the city. The casket was opened during the delay here, and many took the last look at him whom they knew so well and loved so much. From Chicago the body was accompanied by a delegation, delegations from other cities joining en route to New York.
The remains reached the Bethel Home on Saturday, where they were viewed by the Family and by members of the Congregation. On Sunday morning they were removed to The Temple and lay in state until 10 o'clock in the evening. Thousands saw them here for the last time.
All day Saturday and Sunday representatives of congregations in many of the cities east of the Mississippi and in Canada arrived on almost every incoming train. The Temple was inadequate to accommodate them all. The lecture room below was opened for the overflow. Every inch of available space was occupied from the basement to and including the second balcony.
Two services had been announced for The Temple-- one to be held in the afternoon for the friends, the other for the public in the evening. But in view of the rapidly increasing numbers, the Committee of Arrangements provided an additional service, to be held on Sunday morning. The speaker was Brother Macmillan, whose remarks will be found elsewhere.
The afternoon service, which had been especially announced for the friends, was opened with a solo, "Be Thou Faithful Unto Death." These words were especially impressive, because one of the most beautiful floral designs surrounding the casket bore a broad white ribbon on which were the words of this beautiful hymn. The other hymns were 23, "Blest be the tie that binds," so frequently used by the classes and by conventions when welcoming Brother Russell in their midst; and No. 273, "Sun of my soul, my Father dear," one of Brother Russell's favorite hymns.
Each speaker, when he had completed his remarks at the side of the casket in the main Auditorium, proceeded to the lecture room below and repeated the same address to the friends crowding the smaller Auditorium. All of the addresses--seventeen in number--appear in this issue of THE WATCH TOWER.
THE FLORAL DISPLAY
Elsewhere in THE WATCH TOWER will be found a full-page view of the floral display on the rostrum. It was the finest we have ever seen on such an occasion. The scene surpassed description. The rostrum of The Temple was so completely occupied by plants, ferns, flowers and a most wonderful collection of appropriate floral designs as to leave barely room enough for the speakers and the remains of our beloved Pastor. Moreover, the entire facing of every balcony and box was artistically decorated with a great variety of ferns and flowers.
At the foot of the casket was placed a broken pillar of flowers, fittingly representing that dear body which, like the Lord's body, had been broken in the service of the brethren; while at the head was a magnificent floral cross and crown, the cross symbolizing his share in the death of Christ, and the crown symbolizing the Crown of Glory, which we believe he now wears with our dear Lord in Heaven.
The rostrum was not large enough to contain all the floral designs, nor was there space available in the interior of The Temple to display all the floral contributions. But however beautiful and numerous all these were, they
but very imperfectly represented the degree of love and esteem in which our departed Pastor was held by all who knew him well.
The Committee of Arrangements were of course desirous of following Brother Russell's suggestion in his Will, and to this end requested several brethren to speak at the services. Among these were A.H. MacMillan, Menta Sturgeon, W.E. Van Amburgh, P.S.L. Johnson, E.W.V. Kuehn, Toledo, O.; C.A. Wise, Indianapolis, Ind.; J.T.D. Pyles, Washington, D.C.; I.I. Margeson, Boston, Mass.; F.W. Manton, Toronto, Canada; C.B. Shull, Columbus, Ohio; G.C. Driscoll, Dayton, Ohio; Dr. L.W. Jones, Chicago, Ill.; D. Kihlgren, Springfield, Mass.; Dr. A.E. McCosh, Detroit, Mich.; C.J. Woodworth, Scranton, Pa.; George Draper, Wichita, Kansas; C.H. Anderson, Baltimore, Md.; W.L. Abbott, St. Paul, Minn.; and J.D. Ross, Truro, N.S. But to have carried out the program in its entirety would have consumed considerable more time, and as The Temple was so crowded that many were obliged to stand for hours, it was deemed wise to reduce the number of speakers. The addresses of those at the three services follow in regular order:
Bangalore
