Lies and Damn Lies

by AllTimeJeff 12 Replies latest jw friends

  • AllTimeJeff
    AllTimeJeff

    The greatest mistake and the greatest harm I ever did to myself as a Jehovah's Witness is lying to myself. About myself first. About everyone else secondly.

    I believe in very few constants in life. I think we all are on journey's and it takes a lot to get to where we are going. But one thing life, esp life as a JW taught me, is that by and large, we, you and I, are very willing to lie to ourselves when it feels good to do so.

    That isn't meant to be accusatory or to denigrate anyone. I can only speak of my own experience and see how it jives with with others to know this is true.

    Truthfully, I never wanted a paradise earth where I could frolic in the fields with Lions and Elephants. For one thing, I was planning on moving to New Jersey after Armageddon. (joke their folks, laugh) What appealed to me about being a JW wasn't the future paradise. It was what I got out of being a JW now.

    While allowing for the fact that JW teachings do point many broken people with problems to a time when their problems will end, the carrot on the stick that the Governing Body uses is what they term the present "spiritual paradise". This bullshit paradise is supposedly complete with brothers and sisters who care, elders to shepherd, while everyone rejoices that "we alone have the truth."

    Of course, the dark side of this is that JW's teach, and I taught, that everyone else was going to be destroyed by that ultra loving god Jehovah.

    Why? Why did I do it? I truthfully never did deep down believe it. What I got out of it was being a teenage ministerial servant and pioneer who wanted to be an over achiever, and happened to be a born in JW, finding myself in a religious cult that encouraged me to use my intelligence, talents, and energies for them.

    And I was young, and my vanities were over fed. An easy recipe for lying to myself began. I could become an elder, be a leader, and having learned this from the pros, hide my own agenda behind Watchtower catch phrases of "having spiritual goals" and "reaching out for further privileges of service."

    From my teens I saw the rot and hypocrisy. But I was too caught up in lying to myself. It caused me to pursue a goal I genuinely had no interest in, being a missionary, and to marry someone whom I had no business marrying, though I loved her with all my heart. All because I simply wanted to achieve, to do something with my life. With no guidance, JW's used that until I finally said "enough!"

    These days, I have no problem with admitting where I am at. If I want something bad for me, maybe I will do it, eat it, and maybe I won't, but I won't sit there and try to justify it. While I don't say everything that comes into my mind, with my friends, I am pretty much a "what you see is what you get" person.

    I strongly believe that while you don't have to tip your hand to everyone you meet, (esp at work) you can't afford not to be honest with yourself. It's miserable.

    There is nothing wrong with wanting to achieve in your life. There is nothing wrong with changing. Unhappy relationships and marriages can either be saved or ended by honesty. Unfortunately, most relationships with that level of intimacy rarely gets the honesty it needs to fertilize the relationship.

    It is, in my opinion, the ultimate challenge of exiting JW's to be honest with the person in the mirror. To really know, then admit, who they are. To know, not just your weak points, but your strong ones. To know who you really are, and then to strike out from that place is the ultimate peace that in the end, we all seek.

    But until we stop pretending to be who we are not, until we stop justifying our weaknesses and bad points, until we come to a place where we can accept ourselves for who we are and being a work in progress, our development as people, post JW, will be slower then it needs to be.

    There are many lessons to be learned. Many mistakes have been made, and will be made. But one mistake that can stop is to no longer lie to the person staring back at us in the mirror.

  • snowbird
    snowbird
    Lies and Damn Lies ...

    ... then there are statistics.

    http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php

    Great and moving post.

    Syl

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    Good honest post. I wanted the paradise-around-the-next-corner, but I get what you are saying. I too, wanted a higher purpose. Yours was goal-oriented and mine was purpose driven- serving God (as WTS defined Him). But thanks for giving a different perspective. I can see a bunch of what you say in many JW's- become important by using your talents for the cult.

  • theSheep
    theSheep

    it is true that no one is perfect, prentending that we are not adam's offspring (by lying to the person in the mirror) is not going to help with anything. I get annoyed by people who act like they do no wrong and go around discussing other peoples mistakes. To me that sounds like judgement.

    born in JW, was ignorant about the truth until 4 years ago when the truth started to make sense and i believed. I got used to some of the "worldly" things during my ignorance and now it's a bit difficult to change. Because of this I've learned to accept that I am who i am all i need do is pray for strength to immitate the Heavenly King.

    Please know that fighting the temptation is not lying to the person in the mirror.

    Am i making sense?

  • VampireDCLXV
    VampireDCLXV

    Maybe that's why being a JW made me ill. I've always strived to be honest with myself. I'm the type who wears my heart on my sleeve; I'm not very good at hiding my feelings. When you're one of the Borg, you're expected to put on a mask, a mask that I never wore very well. It seems to me that if you're not happy-crappy all the time, other Borg start pulling away from you. Perhaps that's why I was never overly popular?

    V665

  • AllTimeJeff
    AllTimeJeff

    Hi there theSheep. You said

    Please know that fighting the temptation is not lying to the person in the mirror.

    No, no it isn't. But the only person who would ever be qualified to tell or know whether the temptation is merely a disingenuous attempt to do something really wrong (such as, rob a convenience store, rape, etc) is you. Other temptations, like cheating on your partner, are more complex. Is it because its over? Is it because you were hurt and you are acting out? Is it tempting because you aren't being honest with yourself or your partner? Would a real honest conversation alleviate the temptation?

    Thats the interesting dynamic when it comes to a conversation about being honest with yourself. Ultimately, you must answer to yourself. It's not anyone else's job or responsibility. If one chooses to accept or do certain things that they are uncertain of, it is the ultimate test.

    So if you feel you are being tempted to do wrong, then I guess you are. The reasons why though are just as important to figure out, imo, as to what is tempting you, and that my friend, is where being honest with yourself really matters.

  • AllTimeJeff
    AllTimeJeff

    By the way, for any believing Jehovah's Witness who read this, it isn't my place to tell you anything about what you believe. You know where I stand. I would have only one question that you only need to ask and answer yourself.

    Why is the principle work of Jehovah's Witnesses to go around with literature, and persentations designed to get into people of other religions heads so that they question their beliefs, yet baptized Jehovah's Witnesses are expressly prohibited from reading about their own faith from other religions when it could cause precisely the same effect?

    That simply isn't honest, imo. But ultimately, thats a question you, and every believing JW, must answer.

  • cyberjesus
    cyberjesus

    The problem with being honest with ourselves is created by the concept of good and evil. Once we are told that our actions are sinful, we are forced to avoid the actions or to avoid seeing our actions. We are told to avoid something that is bad. We lie to ourselves. When the very same thing we thought was bad, is just natural.

    Lets talk about the sexual desire. We are told that it comes from our sinful inclinations and from the devil... So when we experience our natural biological reactions to sexual stimulation, we labeled them as bad and we fight with ourselves. We are trained to lie to us and judge something natural.

    In order for us to not lie to ourselves we need to first remove any judgmental attitude we had, see the things for what they are. Accept ourselves and not care of the judgement of others. Once we overcome these 2 hurdles then we can open up to see who we really are and love the person we see in the mirror.

    society, culture and religion limit us from being ourselves fully.

    Thats what I think.

  • Chalam
    Chalam

    Good to see you around Jeff!

    Go easy on yourself dude, you couldn't see the wood from the trees. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and Wisdom is even better :)

    So what's new in your life? Send us an update on your journey :)

    Blessings,

    Stephen

  • AllTimeJeff
    AllTimeJeff

    Hi there Stephen. I don't feel bad. But its not honest unless I admit why I ultimately went all in in JW land. I had noble motives too. I really wanted to help people, and it prevented me from being an ass on occasion.

    As far as how I am doing, I have been on a 4 year upswing. :)

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