ART! What the hell is it?????

by Terry 20 Replies latest jw friends

  • poppers
    poppers

    Art is the lie that reveals the truth

    Artfully said - very zen like. Well done LisaRose!

  • BabaYaga
    BabaYaga

    Yes, I love that quote!

    It is mostly attibuted to Pablo Picasso, but I also saw a reference that Jean Cocteau had said it. Well... it is a perfectly wonderful thing to say, who knows who said it first.

    Art is a lie which tells the truth. ~Jean Cocteau

    We all know that art is not truth. Art is a lie that makes us realize the truth. ~ Pablo Picasso

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    Kurt Vonnegut said, (and I'm paraphrasing from memory): "You can toss an anvil down a set of metal stairs and call it music, but that doesn't mean that I have to like it."

    Vonnegut also said that a legitimate goal for any artist is to make life a little bit more enjoyable for others. By that standard, Vonnegut said, The Beatles succeeded as artists.

    I agree with Vonnegut.

  • Snoozy
    Snoozy

    I recently bought a wall tapestry that has a picture of an old barn in a field..why did I buy it?

    Because it reminded me of childhood days of visiting my Aunt and Uncle on their farm in Carlinville Illinois. It was a great place where you hardly ever could watch TV (which was just coming into homes) and had to use your imagination for play.

    One time I was bored so I got a cardboard box and put a string across the top like a tightrope. Tiny frogs were plentiful then and I collected a few and was determined to teach them to walk a tightrope. I would be famous as would my little frogs.

    They must have been deaf because they never got it right...

    The picture reminds me of easier days, days when worries were for adults, days when you could just walk down to the barn and check out the barncats, cows, pigs,chickens, smell the fragrant summer smells of fields and crops, checking out the lake ,days when you would think going to the market was the highlight of the week..bathing (and shivering) in an old metal tub outside..laying in the feather bed at night listening to the wasp banging on the ceiling and covering your head so as not to get stung.. waking in the morning surrounded with feathers..so cozy with a hint of crispness in the air that you didn't want to get up. Just snuggle some more in the feather bed. So cozy!

    That's why I bought the tapestry/art. To me it is a lifetime memory restored each time I look at it.

    Snoozy

  • Markfromcali
    Markfromcali

    What art says about consciousness is very interesting, and certainly some forms of art may even cause ones consciousness to shift to some degree. It's even more interesting to look at how this happens.

    For the intellectuals amongst us this article may be of interest. I'll quote a few paragraphs that addresses art directly - it would be nice to have the background for this: http://www.gebser.org/publications/pdf/introphiljgebser.pdf

    If you look at the shift from Medieval art to Renaissance art you will find a striving to
    paint perspectivity. Prior to that there was a background which was dark and
    mysterious. On it there was a polar principle, using the light, the Cross, the saint. But
    then there appears through various minor artists, I think from 1420 to about 1460, a
    tension of trying to depict three–dimensional perspectival space in art. This was
    stressed to such an extent that they called perspectivity the eighth art on which all
    science and all knowledge must be based. Look at what Leonardo daVinci was doing.
    He perfected perspectival painting. He was an engineer. He was a mechanic. He dealt
    with everything as purely spatial. The spatial–mental (mechanical, if you like)
    consciousness ruled the day. Now, please understand, no one in their clear mind or
    turbulent psyche has ever seen perspectival space. No one. It is not given that way to
    vision. It is a consciousness structure which allows us to talk about perspectival space.
    Once we mutated from psychic to spatial consciousness, perspectival space became
    possible, not because we had seen it, but because the consciousness structure
    demanded that we interpret space as perspectival.
    In the twentieth century what emerges, of course, is time. The age of anxiety is an age
    of time. We are emerging with the awareness of time as we once were aware of space
    in our mental consciousness. Now we have time consciousness, but it is no longer the
    linear time consciousness and that fact is discoverable in every science, in every artistic
    production. For example, if you look at Picasso, what do you find? He developed
    through the magical African art, through the classical, through his own psychological
    problems and finally emerged with temporic art. Watch Picasso’s works carefully and
    you will find that they present you with the fourth dimension, with time which is not
    linear.
    To give you a bit of background, whenever a particular consciousness structure comes
    to self–destruction and is moving toward mutation you will find one good sign,
    quantification. For example, when mythical–psychic consciousness was exhausting
    itself it began to proliferate and fragment itself: gods, goddesses, myth after myth
    quantitatively. A good sign in our still–prevalent mental consciousness is a movement
    toward fragmentation, separation of everything from everything else. There has been
    specialization to such an extent that as Nietzsche says we have specialists on the left
    brain of a leech. That is, all they know, that is all they want to know and they are
    specialists; they have perspectively focused on one little thing and nothing else. This
    fragmentation is a sign that the predominant consciousness structure is coming to an
    end by fragmenting itself.
    At the same time, and correlatively with that falling apart, there appears another
    consciousness structure which is different in its dimensions. The consciousness
    structure now is appearing as integral, aperspectival, atemporal. Why this alpha
    prefix? It is not alpha negativum, but alpha primativum., that is privatio from Latin
    meaning “to free.” We are freed from spatiality in our consciousness. We are also
    freed from linear temporality which means that we are neither rhythmic, psychic, nor
    mental–linear, but integral. We can observe this in the attempts to paint or present
    integrally an entire human being such as Picasso’s painting of a man. You know at
    times we think it strange the way Picasso painted. What he did was frontally present
    the back side of the person, the side of the person and the front of the person. What
    Picasso is doing is saying that in order to experience we must have a transparent
    consciousness whereby the integral “something” appears in full force aperspectivally.
    You do not have to look at the person from perspective to perspective and then
    somehow in mysterious memory add the perspectives, gluing the person together from
    the various spatial perspectives. Picasso wanted to present the whole thing from front,
    from back, from side, at the same time without any requirement of perspectivity. So
    these paintings could be called aperspectival and hence be considered transparent or
    diaphanous.
  • myelaine
  • panhandlegirl
    panhandlegirl

    I saw this piece of ART when I was in San Antonio to see "Splendors of Thirty Centuries of Mexican Art." This sculpture is BIG and Beautiful. I was blown away when I saw it.

  • cliff
    cliff

    Ceci n'est pas une pipe.

  • Heaven
    Heaven

    Art is something that is created which appeals to your senses and emotions. It is what speaks to you, physically, emotionally, mentally and spiritually. It is what you can relate to. It exists everywhere... in music, writing, poetry, painting, drawing, dance, crafting, architecture, fashion... anything that is created.

    It is not relegated to homosapiens either. Elephants, dolphins, horses, chimpanzees, etc have all been noted to create.

    Cheeta PaintingElephant Painting

    Dolphin Painting Project:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI643k_qan4

  • simon17
    simon17

    I'll define art as something deemed worth creating despite serving no practical purpose.

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