Flock book F-Bomb - do the r&f know?

by laverite 30 Replies latest jw friends

  • laverite
    laverite

    When someone is interested in a topic, what in the world would cause someone else (I'm pointing at you "Ugottabejoking") to post a "Nobody cares. Next!!!" reply (with three exclamations!!!)? If YOU don't care (and I am sure there are many who don't) YOU don't need to reply. Just follow your own advice and say "Next" -- just go to the next post. By saying "Nobody cares" you are attempting to speak for everyone. Why not leave it to those who want to discuss?

    Does ANYONE understand bossy people who put their noses where they don't belong, attempting to speak for everyone? Oh wait...Elders, GB members, etc. do that. Nice one Ugottabejoking.

  • shepherd
    shepherd

    My information about the Bethel legal depatment says they care very much indeed whether the rank and file can have access to this book! They are doing all they can to get the new elder's manual taken down.

    But it is too late to stop it - it is everywhere! So now they are trying to get webmasters to remove the links so it becomes harder to find. They will fail there too, because webmasters should know that it is not illegal to post a third-party link. You're not liable if you link to an online location that contains infringing material. Actually, the DMCA protects against claims that simply posting links are infringing. A Cease and Desist letter can be sent to a Webmaster, but it holds no legal weight. WTBS lawyers know that - they hope you do not!

    It is possible for WTBTS to apply for a subpeona to demand the IP and other identifying information of someone posting the file, if the files are hosted inside the USA. Note I said 'posting the file' - not sharing the link. Never mention that you personally uploaded a file, and use a proxy if possible before uploading 'sensitive' files to file-sharing sites, although you should of course never post files that infringe on the rights of the copyright holder :)

    DMCA states that, basically, as long as a site removes the file as soon as they get a valid DMCA notification, they are no longer liable. If the file is reposted, a new DMCA notification is needed, especially if the file name is not the same.

  • fokyc
    fokyc

    There has been 24,000 + downloads of "the book" from just one site,

    105,022 on another, my guess is there are more downloads than copies printed!

    Plenty of people know, but whether the r&f know is another matter!

  • moshe
    moshe

    Most JWs are put "in the dark" on purpose by the WT org!

  • CuriousButterfly
    CuriousButterfly
    When someone is interested in a topic, what in the world would cause someone else (I'm pointing at you "Ugottabejoking") to post a "Nobody cares. Next!!!" reply (with three exclamations!!!)? If YOU don't care (and I am sure there are many who don't) YOU don't need to reply. Just follow your own advice and say "Next" -- just go to the next post. By saying "Nobody cares" you are attempting to speak for everyone. Why not leave it to those who want to discuss?
    Does ANYONE understand bossy people who put their noses where they don't belong, attempting to speak for everyone? Oh wait...Elders, GB members, etc. do that. Nice one Ugottabejoking.

    Amen!

  • sir82
    sir82

    I'd say at this point few people who are not members of this forum know about it, JW or otherwise.

    JWs are a pretty clueless bunch. I'd venture to say that about 90% of those who don't have an elder in their immediate family don't know that a new book exists.

    I'd also venture to say that probably nearly half of all JWs aren't even aware that any elder manual exists - old or new.

  • chickpea
    chickpea

    fokyc:

    There has been 24,000 + downloads of "the book" from just one site, 105,022 on another, my guess is there are more downloads than copies printed!
    Plenty of people know, but whether the r&f know is another matter!

    day-um, practically a new 144000!

  • Witness My Fury
    Witness My Fury

    If I emailed this to a depressed, fed up, limping but still brainwashed JW mate in MY OWN congregation....whose Dad happens to be the WT conductor, ... ummmm,.... what could you foresee happening when daddykins finds out?

    Im tempted, but dont want to be in the backroom in a weeks time.

    My relatives will be getting it regardless as they arent in my cong...

    Cheers

  • St George of England
    St George of England

    I do not think many, if any in my congregation know about the leak; certainly no one has mentioned it to me.

    If they were to receive a copy I do not think it would make much difference to them, they are brain dead, just as I was until a couple of years ago.

    I do think that the WTS IS concerned however, in view of their attempts to prevent its distribution. Probably would have more effect in a younger more dynamic congregation than the sleepy backwaters where I live.

    George

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    I think that, if every hounders' instruction book, Kingdumb Misery, Kool-Aid washtowel, and letter to the hounders that is going to affect the congregation were made public, it would force the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger to ease up on ridiculous demands. If they can do things in private, they can do things that would so outrage most people that they would be banned instantly, and no one would know about it. And, if anyone is on their way in, they would continue going in without knowing what they are in for.

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