Crystal Cathedral is Bankrupt: Chapter 11 filed

by Terry 20 Replies latest jw friends

  • Momma-Tossed-Me
    Momma-Tossed-Me

    If a church is tax exempt, should it be able to look to the federal government for protection?????

    It would seem to me that there should be some negatives for being tax exempt, such as not being able to file bankruptcy due to the fact that taxes are not paid into the system which will basicly pay for the court proceedings that are created around such a legal proceeding.

    Just a thought.

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    Dead-on assessment, Terry...

    Zid

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    And scientology keeps moving on...

    EEEKK !!

  • james_woods
    james_woods
    Dead-on assessment, Terry...

    Correct.

    His son and "intellectual heir" (ha ha ha) is a flat pancake with no charismatic traits at all.

    Correct again. Maybe they can sell it to the Reverend Melissa Scott?

  • LV101
    LV101

    Terry ... love your opinion and it applies so well to some charitable organizations as far as the swagger goes.

    Do you feel this way about all religion --- stupid question, i'm, obviously, not a good student here! Some radical changes have been made by individuals studying the bible --- whether they're finally learning right from wrong, good/bad, cause/effect, whatever.

    LV101

  • JeffT
    JeffT

    Terry, your last post described me perfectly. I was graduating from college with no job prospects (BA in English and no one was hiring teachers). The old gang was disbursing and I needed a new gang. Add to that the fact that sex, drugs and rock and roll had been my main focus for about six years (yes it ran back to High School) and I was ripe to become a dub. At that time the WTBS literature seemed to delve into a lot of weighter bible interpretation.

    We broke with our last church a little over a year ago. The place had been undergoing major changes, brought about by importing a leadership team from Rick Warren's church. We were already having some issues with where the church was going, and the constant appeals for money were getting old. Then they fired my wife who had been working there for nineteen years, so they could replace her with one of their own. Neither one of us has been in a church since.

    Looking back (and around at other places) it is clear that megachurges are all about the money. They have to be. Like whales scooping up krill they have to eat everything in sight just to stay alive.

  • Dogpatch
    Dogpatch

    That was the last church I attended (at 13) before becoming a JW. But is was not the Cathedral, it was the "Garden Grove Community Church," and my mother volunteered as a secretary for Schuller when he was writing his first book. It was the first drive-in church in history.

    http://randallwatters.org/randypt1.htm

    Randy

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    Maybe Obama should bail them out, this way he can prove once and for all that he's a Christian and not a Muslim.

    This may be an indication that the interest in religion itself in America is on the down turn,

    something that is starting to be recognized in many modernized countries/continents. ie. Europe

    Or it was a simple business mistake thinking that the borrowed money would be returned in due time,

    This church does operate much like a business of sorts, where lenders who have attractive interest rates

    approach organizations like this and say " Hey do need or want some money ? "

    It is openly known that these leaders or owners of these big religious organizations live a very prosperous life style.

    There was a recent expose on Joyce Meyer where it was discovered that she travels around the country and abroad

    in a private jet and gets chauffeured by limosines to her preaching events.

    Who says religion doesn't pay off.

  • LV101
    LV101

    JOYCE MEYER INFO --- WOW. she's really been preaching for more money lately it seems. glad you posted this. honestly, i hate the GOV'T being involved in every aspect of our lives but this big business of religion --- the one place they need to protect mankind and where the hay are they!!!!! makes me sick. i think capitalism is great but this is plain wrong playing off the emotions/llves of the hurting and in need of hope.

    LV101

  • Mad Dawg
    Mad Dawg

    It is sad that this is where Terry and I must stake out common ground on religion. Worse is that all churches take a hit because these types.

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