-Qualifications? Who wouldn't fear an elder with this prickly thingy. He looks well qualified to stick it to the Bros and sisters.
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How Much Power Does an Elder Have?
by Cold Steel 24 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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GrandmaJones
Ha,ha,ha, that's nasty. (but it is really really funny!)
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VM44
3) Speak with DF'd individuals? Short answer: Yes. Long answer: While they're the only ones officially allowed to speak (even spirituals things) with disfellowshipped persons, they do it only under certain circumstances.
More proof that the JWs have a "clergy class" (elders).
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Cold Steel
Thanks for the answers.
I suppose an overseer is equal to being a bishop?
If one is in a Sunday School or other class and, say, they state an opinion that the church hasn't spoken on, or taken a position on. Would an elder's opinion carry more weight? During such a class, would the instructor defer to an elder? For example, if a person asks whether their pet dog or cat would be resurrected and someone else says, "Yeah, I think I'll have my cat Tinker Bell with me," while another says, "Well, the Bible doesn't say anything about it!" Would someone say, "What's your take on it, elder?"
And then let's say someone just happens to have a January 1921 Watchtower with them and it says that Tinker Bell is doomed to a bleak future of dark nothingness because only humans can be resurrected. Where does the buck stop? And further, what if the elder concurs with the Watchtower and says Tinker Bell will never see another ray of light or lap another drink of water, and the first person says, "Well I think I will see Tinker Bell! The scriptures don't say they can't be resurrected, so I think I will see Tinker Bell again!"
Does Tinker Bell's owner stand in danger of being redressed in private? Does the elder's opinion carry any more weight than Tink's owner?
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Simon Morley
About this much?
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Caminante
Yes, Cold Steel. The Greek term translated "overseer" is e·pi′sko·pos, which of course is the word the English bishop roots to. See Chapter 3 of In Search for Christian Freedom for an explanation of how the term got the connotation it currently has in Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy.
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Caminante
Usually elders should not express personal viewpoints as if they were Scriptural teachings. They should teach only on what's based on recent published material, issued by the "faithful and discreet slave".—Matthew 24:45.
All meeting parts where teaching is involved are being conducted by elders. There is no Sunday School (in the generally accepted sense) in Jehovah's Witnesses' congregations. Everything being taught is based on printed material approved by the Governing Body, as representative of the "slave" (public talk outlines, Watchtower study articles, Our Kingdom Ministry etc.)
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OUTLAW
A JW Elder has just enough Power..
To recieve "New Light"..
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1Robinella
That's the elders at our old hall. They thought they were god. Once They told me I could not bring a backpack to the meetings because it looked "worldly." When I explained that "It is just a bag, it holds my notebooks, bible, pencils I don't see the big deal." They said "It's in your best interst to change bags think of the congregation and how it looks." I never changed bags, they did not know I was broke and could not afford to buy anything "extra." Funny thing is that one of the elders wife gave it to me and thought I'd like it. At the time, I was grateful. Lol. Crazy mixed up world we live in. Nuts....Sorry, an error occurred while processing your request. I'm really getting tired of them on Firefox.
Yeah this is the usual steps I have to follow in order to login. lol. I know what you mean, I'm totally tired of it too. I usually have to login, expect to see this message every time, hit the back button once, then I have to re-enter my info only then it lets me in.
