help needed now for letter to diss

by serein 16 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • serein
    serein

    and i dont want crazy ideas,im sat here trying to write it and i cant even start it,

    help please, plus the elder whos coming to visit me at 6 who thinks im going to be nice and let him in and get brain washed in to going back is a realy nice person and im softy so im not gona be in im gona leave letter on door for him to take,im going movies wi kids

  • StoneWall
    StoneWall

    Hi serein!

    Just go to the search on this site and type DA letter.

    You will see many good threads with some excellent DA letters that are well written.

    Here's hoping you the best possible turn-out with it.

    StoneWall

  • Chalam
    Chalam

    Just let them know you prefer to have the Son of God as your Mediator, not mortal men.

    1 Timothy 2:5 (New International Version © 2010)

    5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus

    *** Watchtower 1979 April 1 p.31 Questions from Readers ***

    Questions from Readers

    • Is Jesus the "mediator" only for anointed Christians?

    The term "mediator" occurs just six times in the Christian Greek Scriptures and Scripturally is always used regarding a formal covenant.

    Moses was the "mediator" of the Law covenant made between God and the nation of Israel. (Gal. 3:19, 20) Christ, though, is the "mediator of a new covenant" between Jehovah and spiritual Israel, the "Israel of God" that will serve as kings and priests in heaven with Jesus. (Heb. 8:6; 9:15; 12:24; Gal. 6:16) At a time when God was selecting those to be taken into that new covenant, the apostle Paul wrote that Christ was the "one mediator between God and men." (1 Tim. 2:5) Reasonably Paul was here using the word "mediator" in the same way he did the other five times, which occurred before the writing of 1 Timothy 2:5, referring to those then being taken into the new covenant for which Christ is "mediator." So in this strict Biblical sense Jesus is the "mediator" only for anointed Christians.

    The new covenant will terminate with the glorification of the remnant who are today in that covenant mediated by Christ. The "great crowd" of "other sheep" that is forming today is not in that new covenant. However, by their associating with the "little flock" of those yet in that covenant they come under benefits that flow from that new covenant. During the millennium Jesus Christ will be their king, high priest and judge. For more detailed information, see Aid to Bible Understanding, pages 1129 and 1130 under "Mediator"; also God's "Eternal Purpose" Now Triumphing for Man's Good, page 160, paragraph 10; also The Watchtower issues of February 15, 1966, pages 105 through 123; November 15, 1972, pages 685 and 686, under the subheading "Leading the Way to a New Covenant"; and April 1, 1973, pages 198 and 199, under the subheading "The New Covenant."

    [Emphasis Added]

    *** Worldwide Security Under the "Prince of Peace" (1986) pp.10-11 ch.1 The Desire for Peace and Security Worldwide ***

    16 Just as the ancient nation of Israel was in a covenant relationship with Jehovah God through the mediator Moses, so the nation of spiritual Israel, "the Israel of God," has a covenant relationship through a mediator. (Galatians 6:16) It is as the apostle Paul wrote to his Christian fellow worker: "There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus." (1 Timothy 2:5) Was Moses the mediator between Jehovah God and mankind in general? No, he was the mediator between the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and the nation of their fleshly descendants. Likewise, the Greater Moses, Jesus Christ, is not the Mediator between Jehovah God and all mankind. He is the Mediator between his heavenly Father, Jehovah God, and the nation of spiritual Israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members. This spiritual nation is like a little flock of Jehovah's sheeplike ones.—Romans 9:6; Revelation 7:4.

    [Emphasis Added]

    *** Watchtower 1991 February 15 pp.15-20 "You Were Bought With a Price" ***

    8 Hence, the ransom sacrifice is fundamental to the new covenant, of which Jesus is the Mediator. Paul wrote: "There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all-this is what is to be witnessed to at its own particular times." (1 Timothy 2:5, 6) Those words especially apply to the 144,000, with whom the new covenant is made.

    […]

    11 Nevertheless, in a preliminary way, the great crowd have already "washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." (Revelation 7:14) Christ does not act as Mediator of the new covenant toward them, yet they benefit from this covenant through the work of God's Kingdom. Christ still acts toward them, however, as High Priest, through whom Jehovah can and does apply the ransom to the extent of their now being declared righteous as God's friends. (Compare James 2:23.) During the Millennium, they will gradually "be set free from enslavement to corruption [until finally they] have the glorious freedom of the children of God."—Romans 8:21.

    [Emphasis Added]

    *** Watchtower 1998 February 1 pp.20-2 The Other Sheep and the New Covenant ***

    10 "Everyone" who "exercises faith in the Son" will benefit from the ransom sacrifice. (John 3:16, 36) Paul said: "The Christ was offered once for all time to bear the sins of many; and the second time that he appears it will be apart from sin and to those earnestly looking for him for their salvation." (Hebrews 9:28) Today, those earnestly looking for Jesus include surviving anointed Christians of the Israel of God and the millions making up the great crowd, who also have an everlasting inheritance. Both classes thank God for the new covenant and for the life-giving blessings associated with it, including the greater Atonement Day and the ministry of the High Priest, Jesus, in the heavenly Most Holy.

    […]

    13 What happens when the last of the 144,000 realize their heavenly hope? Will the new covenant cease to apply? At that time, there will be on earth no remaining member of the Israel of God. All participants in the covenant will be with Jesus "in the kingdom of [his] Father." (Matthew 26:29) But we remember Paul's words in his letter to the Hebrews: "The God of peace . . . brought up from the dead the great shepherd of the sheep with the blood of an everlasting covenant." (Hebrews 13:20; Isaiah 55:3) In what sense is the new covenant everlasting?

    [Emphasis Added]

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    Don't bother. It just makes them feel important. They're not. Just go to the movies.

  • serein
    serein

    well iv wrote a short one just saying we are dissing ourselfs from em nd to leave us alone respect our wishes and take us off the list of addresses for calling on and no phone calls bla bla,

    gona go movies then go out by christmas decor and stuff,stuck the letter to door so hoping by time i come home its gone,

    i put it on door now cos u no what they like theyl come like 3 hours early,

  • serein
    serein

    so we went out and put letter on door for em and put name on it so the elder would know it was for him and guess what they didnt take it so what now.they didnt even remove it off door,so what should i do,im gona have to send it,and untill it gets there they are gona be coming round buggging me, they must have come cos theyd have rang saying they couldnt or sumat,its all fishy to me.

  • cattails
    cattails

    Hey serein, just deliver it to his door step. Oh, and nail it to the door with a great big thumbtack. That'll do it.

  • brotherdan
    brotherdan

    What you did was best. The best da letter is the one that comes from the heart. Why put someone else's thoughts to it?

  • Scully
    Scully

    Why do you need to explain anything to them?

    Firstly, if you say anything that contradicts the Governing Body™, you will be labelled an Apostate™.

    Secondly, if you DA you are saying that you are willing to abide by their rules and discipline structure, meaning that you fully accept the shunning consequences that they will administer.

    You're far better off to tell them to (a) screw off, (b) get a life and (c) let them know that if they show up again you will call the police and have them charged with trespassing. Leave on your own terms, not theirs.

  • Found Sheep
    Found Sheep

    i left mine in the KH door... on a post it note

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