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TheLoveDoctor

Unity Identifies True Worship........ Comments on these 3 paragraghs

(Especially those who believe everyth ing is well)

7 The One Source of Spiritual Instruction

First-century Christians enjoyed unity because they all received encouragement from the same source. They recognized that Jesus was teaching and directing the congregation through a governing body, composed of the apostles and older men in Jerusalem. These devoted men based their decisions on God’sWord and had traveling overseers communicate their instructions to the congregations in many lands. Concerning such overseers, the Bible says: “As they traveled on through the cities they would deliver to those there for observance the decrees that had been decided upon by the apostles and older men who were in Jerusalem.

(blanket statment-Lie) Now were sappose to believe that cause the said that. Not if were awake and concious

8 Similarly today, a Governing Body composed of spirit-anointed Christians contributes to the unity of the worldwide congregation. The Governing Body publishes spiritually encouraging literature in many languages. This spiritual food is based on God’s Word. Thus, what is taught is not from men but from Jehovah.—Isa. 54:13. (again what they say is from Jah)

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Christian overseers also promote unity by taking the lead inpreaching. The spirit of companionship that unites those who work together in God’s service is far stronger than the spirit that unites others in the world who merely socialize together. The Christian congregationwas founded, not to function as a social club, but to honor Jehovah and to get a job done—the work of preaching the good news,making disciples, and building up the congregation. (Rom. 1:11, 12; 1 Thess. 5:11; Heb. 10:24, 25) Thus, the apostle Paul could say of Christians: “You are standing firm in one spirit, with one soul striving side by side for the faith of the good news.”—Phil.1:27. (So Get to work)

Amelia Ashton

What is the point in preaching to some-one who is going to die before armageddon. The only people to benefit being preached to would be those alive at armageddon, everyone else will be resurrected, won't they?

easyreader1970

The spiritual food is based on God's word but at the same time is still not from men?

If I write some literature that is based on Herman Melville's Moby Dick, can I say that it is not from me but Melville himself?

TheLoveDoctor

not if they new the trut, even not being baptized or not if u knew the truth you will stay dead no resurrection. but of course jah knows the heart. thats what they say billions will die.

Nickolas

Thus, what is taught is not from men but from Jehovah.

Sounds to me like these guys are saying they are modern day prophets. Makes me shake my head in amazement that anyone would buy into this.

sir82

Yep, read between the lines. What problems is the GB addressing?

1) They don't get no respect. No respect at all I tell ya! You will respect my autoritay!

2) Kids (well, people 30 or 35 & under) don't take "the truth" as seriously as the GB would like. They view the congregation as a social club, a place to meet & hang out twice a week. Enduring the mind-numbing meetings for 2 hours is the "cover charge".

DagothUr

"When two unmarried publishers of different sexes come to the KH for the meetings, it is inappropriate for them to exchange any other information apart from the subjects to be presented at that meetings and apart of speaking about encouraging field service experiences. Talking about trivial matters in the house of Jehovah may lead the individual's mind on the path of sexual misconduct, porneia or even fornication, especially if that individual is young and his spirituality is weak."

WT, october 2012

ldrnomo

Kids (well, people 30 or 35 & under) don't take "the truth" as seriously as the GB would like. They view the congregation as a social club, a place to meet & hang out twice a week. Enduring the mind-numbing meetings for 2 hours is the "cover charge".

This is so true, also true is that many go to these meetings out of habit they don't really listen and remember most of what they hear but they go and they go and they think they are pleasing God by going.

The GB must know that today's rank and file are not as devoted as those 30 years ago. They need the rank and file to be devoted to whatever the GB says and that's just not happening as much anymore.

The bORG is fizzling out. Without the totally devoted rank and file, the cash won't be there. They won't be able to keep the propaganda going.

I hope it dies in my lifetime.

LD

sd-7

So they finally got to that quote, huh? Notice that they make no mention of holy spirit directing anything, just the Governing Body. The apostles' letter about circumcision said "the holy spirit and we ourselves", not "we, who alone receive direction from the holy spirit, are telling you". They didn't view themselves as 'governing' anyone, as Jesus warned them not to act like the rulers of the nations. Hence why the term 'governing body' does not exist in scripture. The apostles had authority, but it was never absolute--why else could Paul openly write about publicly rebuking Peter, a fellow apostle, in an OPEN LETTER TO A LOCAL CONGREGATION? This kind of thing would NEVER happen amongst JWs. Many don't even know the names of the people on the GB, much less anything about them.

To say that 'what is taught is not from men but from Jehovah' is to say that 'our literature is to be viewed as equal to scripture, which comes from God'. 'Based on God's Word' is really another way of saying 'IS God's Word' without saying it in a way that is overt enough for an ordinary JW to recognize. Invoking the term 'God's Word' is a nice way of setting you up for the next sentence. The idea is that every word in the literature is supported by the Bible, therefore, the literature is from God just as the Bible is.

I used to think of literature as arrows pointing to the Bible. I always believed what they said, that the Bible was our final authority. So for them to say this really undercuts the idea that the literature is a Bible-based 'help' and not a substitute for the Bible. If reading the Bible alone without the literature means you become spiritually 'darkened', something is clearly wrong with that picture.

They encourage daily Bible reading, but consider this: the 'daily text', Examining the Scriptures Daily, has one Bible verse for each day of the year, followed by a Watchtower quote that is considerably longer than the Bible verse--and sometimes the Watchtower quotes really do seem randomly chosen and hardly even related to the context of the Bible verse. By the end of the year, you've read twice as many Watchtower paragraphs as paragraphs from the Bible. What, then, becomes most important?

--sd-7

wasblind

"What is taught is not from men but from Jehovah "

Are they sayin' that Jehovah didn't give them the right info on the generation teachin' the first time around ?

are they passin' the buck on their screw ups to Jehovah ? They claim to be guided by holy spirit, so are they

sayin' this holy spirit sent by God gave them the wrong info?

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