Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-14-10 WT Study (UNITY2)

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    Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-14-10 WT Study (SEPTEMBER 15, 2010, pages 16-20)(CHRISTIAN UNITY GLORIFIES GOD)

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    C HRISTIAN U NITY

    G LORIFIES G OD

    ‘Earnestly endeavor to observe the oneness of the spirit.’—EPH. 4:3.

    OPENING COMMENTS

    Think about congregations you attended. Was there unity?

    1) Elders who did not talk to each other or others

    a) I can remember 2 blood brothers, elders, that did not talk to each other even to the point of the one who was dying not telling his brother.

    b) The congregation that had 2 factions on the elder bodies that screamed at each other and had 4 hour elder meetings (I knew about 5 of these).

    c) The new PO (COBOE) who told the BOE that it was his way or the highway.

    d) The dark black elder who told off the lighter blacks in his congregation that they were prejudiced (from the platform).

    2) The elders wives and children who listened in on their father’s phone calls and spread the information all over the congregation

    3) The jw families with 2 jw parents who would not let their children associate with children who had only one jw parent.

    4) The jws that would not go to a book study group they were assigned to because a) they did not like the people who went there, b) they preferred going at a different part of town or day of the week.

    5) The congregation that shared a KH but would not show up to help the other do cleanup and repair in the spring and fall, because the elders were not talking.

    6) The congregation that would not clean up the KH after their meeting and left the bathrooms filthy, the trash overflowing, and the carpet not vacuumed.

    START OF ARTICLE

    1. How did the first-century Christians in Ephesus

    bring glory to God?

    THE unity of the Christian congregation

    in ancient Ephesus glorified the true

    God, Jehovah. In that prosperous trading

    center, some Christian brothers evidently

    were wealthy slave owners, while others

    were slaves and probably very poor. (Eph. 6:

    5, 9) Some were Jews who learned the truth

    during the three months that the apostle

    Paul spoke in their synagogue. Others previously

    worshipped Artemis and had practiced

    magical arts. (Acts 19:8, 19, 26) Clearly,

    true Christianity drew together people from

    many backgrounds. Paul recognized that

    Jehovah was glorified by means of the congregation’s

    unity. The apostle wrote: “To him be

    the glory by means of the congregation.”

    —Eph. 3:21.

    COMMENTS

    Christian congregation = only spirit-anointed Christians

    Evidently—probably—clearly

    Some were slaves owned by Christians---was it the same as being employed by a jw as the WTS says? How could early Christians be slaves and not be slaves to two masters? If slavery is legal in a country today, can jws own slaves?

    *** w91 2/1 p. 21 par. 7 Honor Men of All Sorts *** But the principles that governed Christians in a slave-owner relationship are applicable to an employee-employer relationship.

    *** w78 4/1 p. 23 par. 32 Recognize Christ’s Vital Place *** You slaves [today, employees], be obedient in everything to those who are your masters [today, employers] in a fleshly sense, not with acts of eye-service, as men pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, with fear of Jehovah. Whatever you are doing, work at it whole-souled as to Jehovah, and not to men, for you know that it is from Jehovah you will receive the due reward of the inheritance. Slave for the Master, Christ. Certainly the one that is doing wrong will receive back what he wrongly did, and there is no partiality. You masters [today, employers] , keep dealing out what is righteous and what is fair to your slaves [today, employees], knowing that you also have a Master in heaven.”—Col. 3:18–4:1.

    2. What threatened the unity of Christians in Ephesus?

    2 However, the blessed unity of the Ephesian

    congregation was threatened. Paul

    warned the elders: “From among you yourselves

    men will rise and speak twisted things

    to draw away the disciples after themselves.”

    (Acts 20:30) Also, some brothers had not

    completely left behind the divisive spirit

    that, Paul warned, “operates in the sons of

    disobedience.”—Eph. 2:2; 4:22.

    COMMENTS

    “men” not women?

    What are twisted things?

    Can you think of any half-truths or outright lies the WTS has said? This one jumped out at me in a 1993 WT.

    *** w93 8/15 p. 9 Why You Need to Attend Christian Meetings ***

    Jehovah’s Witnesses have consistently shown from the Scriptures that the year 1914 marked the beginning of this world’s time of the end and that “the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly men” has drawn near.

    *** w93 1/15 p. 5 ‘Caught Away to Meet the Lord’—How? ***

    The Watchtower has consistently presented evidence to honesthearted students of Bible prophecy that Jesus’ presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914.

    *** Thousand Year Reign--ka chap. 11 pp. 187-188 par. 7 “Here Is the Bridegroom!” ***Due to this fact, when Charles T. Russell began publishing his own religious magazine in July of 1879, he published it under the title “Zion’s Watch Tower and Herald of Christ’s Presence.” He had already become familiar with Wilson’s The Emphatic Diaglott, which translated the Greek word parousia as “presence,” not “coming,” in Matthew 24:3 and elsewhere. The new magazine was heralding Christ’s invisible presence as having begun in 1874. This presence was to continue until the end of the Gentile Times in 1914, when the Gentile nations would be destroyed and the remnant of the “chaste virgin” class would be glorified with their bridegroom in heaven by death and resurrection to life in the spirit.

    *** w04 9/1 p. 15 par. 10 Beware of “the Voice of Strangers” ***

    Indeed, today as in Paul’s day, some individuals who were once part of the Christian congregation now attempt to mislead the sheep by speaking “twisted things”—half-truths and outright lies. As the apostle Peter puts it, they use “counterfeit words”—words that resemble truth but that are actually as worthless as counterfeit money.—2 Peter 2:3.

    A Letter That Highlights Unity

    3, 4. How does Paul’s letter to the Ephesians emphasize

    unity?

    3 Paul realized that if Christians

    are to continue cooperating

    in harmony, each of

    them must make an earnest

    effort to promote unity. God

    inspired Paul to write a letter

    to the Ephesians in which

    unity was a theme. For example,

    Paul wrote about God’s

    purpose “to gather all things

    together again in the Christ.”

    (Eph. 1:10) He also likened

    Christians to the different

    stones that make up a building.

    “The whole building, being

    harmoniously joined together,

    is growing into a holy

    temple for Jehovah.” (Eph. 2:20, 21)

    Furthermore, Paul highlighted the unity of Jewish

    and Gentile Christians and also reminded

    the brothers of their common origin. He referred

    to Jehovah as “the Father, to whom

    every family in heaven and on earth owes its

    name.”—Eph. 3:5, 6, 14, 15.

    COMMENTS

    Christians—only jws

    Are jws cooperating in harmony?

    Does the WTS promote unity or absolute obedience to the “governing body”?

    Building—temple—only spirit anointed Christians (Jewish and Gentile)

    Where do non-anointed jws fit in?

    4 As we examine chapter 4 of Ephesians,

    we will see why unity requires effort, how Jehovah

    helps us to unite, and what attitudes

    will help us to remain united. Why not read

    the entire chapter so that you will benefit

    from the study even more?

    COMMENTS

    2 articles on unity—I get the feeling that the rank and file and not obeying and/or not fast enough.

    Why Oneness Requires Earnest Effort

    5. Why can God’s angels serve in unity, but why

    may unity be more challenging for us?

    5 Paul entreated his Ephesian brothers ‘to

    endeavor to observe the oneness of the spirit.’

    (Eph. 4:3) To understand the need for effort

    in this regard, consider the case of God’s

    angels. No two living things on earth are

    completely alike, so we can reasonably conclude

    that Jehovah has blessed each one

    of his millions of angels with uniqueness.

    (Dan. 7:10) Yet, they can serve Jehovah in

    unity because they all listen to him and do

    his will. ( Read Psalm 103:20, 21. ) While

    faithful angels have diverse attributes, Christians

    in addition have various defects. This

    can make unity more challenging.

    COMMENTS

    Brothers? No sisters?

    Did the angels serve in unity? Did they all listen? 1/3 left….

    (Revelation 12:4) and its tail drags a third of the stars of heaven, and it hurled them down to the earth. . . .

    *** re chap. 27 p. 179 par. 9 God’s Kingdom Is Born! ***

    The dragon has authority also in the spirit realm. With his tail, he “drags a third of the stars of heaven.” Stars can represent angels. (Job 38:7) Mention of “a third” would emphasize that a considerable number of angels have been misled by Satan.

    Does uniqueness = not be able to work together?

    Does having diverse attributes mean that angels are secondary to other angels; worthy of “double honor” as the elders as said to be?

    Christians—only jws—have defects?

    6. What attitudes will help us to enjoy cooperating

    with brothers who have defects different from ours?

    6 When imperfect people try to cooperate,

    they can easily have difficulties. For

    example, what if a mild-tempered brother

    who often arrives late serves Jehovah along

    with a brother who is punctual but easily

    loses his temper? Each might feel that

    the other’s conduct is lacking something

    but might forget that aspects of his own

    conduct are equally inappropriate. How

    could two such brothers serve together in

    harmony? Note how the attitudes recommended

    in Paul’s next words would help

    them. Then reflect on how we can promote

    unity by cultivating those attitudes.

    Paul wrote: “[I] entreat

    you to walk worthily

    . . . with complete lowliness

    of mind and mildness,

    with long-suffering, putting

    up with one another in love,

    earnestly endeavoring to observe

    the oneness of the spirit

    in the uniting bond of

    peace.”—Eph. 4:1-3.

    Those from many backgrounds are united (picture

    Of carefully staged jws)

    COMMENTS

    So the WTS thinks difficulties arise over that punctuality divides congregation?

    “equally inappropriate”

    “attitudes”

    7. Why is it vital to work toward being united with

    other imperfect Christians?

    7 Learning to serve God in

    unity with other imperfect

    people is vital because there

    is only one body of true worshippers.

    “One body there is,

    and one spirit, even as you

    were called in the one hope

    to which you were called; one

    Lord, one faith, one baptism;

    one God and Father of all persons.”

    (Eph. 4:4-6) Jehovah’s spirit and blessings

    are linked to the one association of

    brothers that God is using. Even if someone

    in the congregation upsets us, where else

    can we turn? Nowhere else can we hear the

    sayings of everlasting life.—John 6:68.

    COMMENTS

    “only one body of true worshippers”—only jws

    “one association of brothers (sisters?) that God is using”—only jws

    WHERE else can we turn---WHO

    (John 6:68) Simon Peter answered him: “Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life;

    *** w06 2/15 p. 30 par. 21 Walking in the Path of Increasing Light ***

    I reflect on Peter’s words to Jesus: ‘Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life.’ Then I ask myself, ‘Where shall I go away to—out there into the darkness of the world?’ This helps me to hold firmly to God’s organization.”—John 6:68.

    *** w97 9/15 p. 5 Poor yet Rich—How Can It Be? ***

    I remind myself of Peter’s words to Jesus, recorded at John 6:68: ‘Lord, whom shall we go away to?’ If I stop serving Jehovah, where do I go?

    *** w88 3/15 pp. 18-19 par. 13 Serving as Jehovah’s Trusting Fellow Workers ***

    Furthermore, suppose a person was to separate himself from Jehovah’s people. Where could he go? Is he not faced with the same issue that confronted Jesus’ apostles when he asked them if they also wanted to leave him? The apostle Peter rightly replied: “Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life.” (John 6:68) There is nowhere else to go but to “Babylon the Great,” the world empire of false religion, or into the clutches of Satan’s political “wild beast.” (Revelation 13:1; 18:1-5)

    Nowhere else can we hear the sayings of everlasting life—THE CARROT THAT THE WTS HOLDS OUT TO JWS

    *** w89 9/1 p. 19 par. 7 Remaining Organized for Survival Into the Millennium ***Only Jehovah’s Witnesses , those of the anointed remnant and the “great crowd,” as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil. (Revelation 7:9-17; 2 Corinthians 4:4) They will make up the “flesh” that Jesus Christ said would be saved through the worst tribulation of all human history.

    “Gifts in Men” Promote Unity

    8. What does Christ use to help strengthen us

    against divisive influences?

    8 Paul used a common practice among soldiers

    of ancient times to illustrate how Jesus

    has provided “gifts in men” to help unify

    the congregation. A victorious soldier might

    bring a foreign captive home as a slave

    to provide his wife help with chores. (Ps.

    68:1, 12, 18) Similarly, Jesus’ victory over

    the world provided him with many willing

    slaves. ( Read Ephesians 4:7, 8. ) How did he

    use those captives, so to speak? “He gave

    some as apostles, some as prophets, some as

    evangelizers, some as shepherds and teachers,

    with a view to the readjustment of

    the holy ones, for ministerial work, for the

    building up of the body of the Christ, until

    we all attain to the oneness in the faith.”

    —Eph. 4:11-13.

    COMMENTS

    So were these captive “women” who became maidservants

    only to serve the needs of the wife?

    Hagar

    Bilhah

    Zilpah

    Do elders consider themselves slaves? Have you ever heard an elder refer to himself as a “good for nothing slave”?

    Are any in the WTS today considered apostles or prophets?

    Body of Christ—only spirit anointed Christians

    9. (a) How do “gifts in men” help to maintain our

    unity? (b) Why should every member of the congregation

    contribute to its unity?

    9 As loving shepherds, these “gifts in

    men” help to maintain our unity. For example,

    if a congregation elder notices two

    brothers “stirring up competition with one

    another,” he can contribute powerfully to

    the unity of the congregation by offering

    private counsel “to readjust [them] in a spirit

    of mildness.” (Gal. 5:26–6:1) As teachers,

    these “gifts in men” help us to build firm

    faith based on Bible teachings. Thus they

    promote unity and help us advance to Christian

    maturity. Paul wrote that this is “in or-

    der that we should no longer be babes,

    tossed about as by waves and carried hither

    and thither by every wind of teaching by

    means of the trickery of men, by means of

    cunning in contriving error.” (Eph. 4:13,

    14) Every Christian should contribute to

    the unity of the brotherhood, just as every

    member of our physical body builds up the

    others by helping to supply what is needed.

    — Read Ephesians 4:15,16.

    COMMENTS

    “loving”?

    Maintain unity or control?

    What does the WTS mean by stirring up competition?

    Do elders base their “counsel” on the bible or the elders manual?

    *** w06 10/15 p. 27 par. 16 Prove Your Faith by Your Life Course ***

    Identifying the givers of gifts could lead to “stirring up competition” as to which is the better or the more costly gift.

    *** w02 11/1 p. 31 Questions From Readers ***

    Gambling also incites egotism and an unhealthy competitive spirit, a strong desire to win.

    ---------Doesn’t the WTS stir up competition by comparing jws to each other?

    *** w95 9/15 p. 17 par. 10 Love Conquers Improper Jealousy ***

    Hence, parents should train their children to measure their progress by considering the examples in God’s Word, not by competing with one another

    Do you understand the dangers of flirting? (which one

    Is the jw, the man or the woman? Most jw marriages are broken up by dallying with other jws, not non-jws.)

    Cultivate New Attitudes

    10. How can immoral conduct threaten our unity?

    10 Did you notice that the fourth chapter

    of Paul’s letter to the Ephesians shows that

    practicing love is the key to attaining unity

    as mature Christians? Next, it shows what

    love involves. For one thing, following the

    way of love rules out fornication and loose

    conduct. Paul urged his brothers not to

    “go on walking just as the nations also

    walk.” Those people were “past all moral

    sense,” and “they gave themselves over to

    loose conduct.” (Eph. 4:17-19) The immoral

    world in which we live threatens our unity.

    People joke about fornication, sing about it,

    watch it for entertainment, and practice it

    either in secret or openly. Yet, even flirting,

    which may involve acting as though you are

    sexually attracted to someone you have no

    intention of marrying, can move you away

    from Jehovah and the congregation. Why?

    Because it so easily leads to fornication.

    Also, flirting that leads a married person

    into adultery can cruelly separate children

    from parents and innocent partners from

    marriage mates. Divisive indeed! No wonder

    Paul wrote: “You did not learn the Christ

    to be so”!—Eph. 4:20, 21.

    COMMENTS

    PRACTICING love not just talking about it

    Loose conduct—more than sexual sins

    Immoral world—all non-jws are immoral?

    People (elders) joke about fornication and watch it for entertainment

    Jws practice it is secret…they are afraid of being df’d but not being judged worthy of eternal death by God.

    Sounds like flirting is still a problem; and the biggest offenders were elders and/or married brothers.

    11. The Bible encourages Christians to make what

    change?

    11 Paul stressed that we should drop disruptive

    ways of thinking and instead cultivate attitudes

    that enable us to live in harmony

    with others. He said: “You should put

    away the old personality which conforms to

    your former course of conduct and which is

    being corrupted according to his [the old

    personality’s] deceptive desires; . . . you

    should be made new in the force actuating

    your mind, and should put on the new personality

    which was created according to

    God’s will in true righteousness and loyalty.”

    (Eph. 4:22-24) How can we ‘be made

    new in the force actuating our mind’? If we

    appreciatively contemplate what we learn

    both from God’s Word and from the fine example

    of mature Christians, with effort we

    can acquire the new personality “created according

    to God’s will.”

    COMMENTS

    What is a disruptive way of thinking…not following the bible or not following the WTS?

    So who are the fine examples—the men and women in the congregation who gossip, slander, and judge?

    Cultivate New Ways of Speaking

    12. How does speaking the truth promote unity,

    and why is it difficult for some to be truthful?

    12 Speaking the truth is vital for those

    who belong to one another in a family or in

    a congregation. Frank, open, kind speech

    can draw people together. (John 15:15) But

    what if a person lies to his brother? When

    his brother realizes it, the bond of trust between

    them will be weakened. You can understand

    why Paul wrote: “Speak truth each

    one of you with his neighbor, because we

    are members belonging to one another.”

    (Eph. 4:25) A person who is accustomed to

    lying, perhaps having started when he was a

    child, may find it hard to start speaking

    truth. But Jehovah will appreciate his effort

    to change and will help him.

    COMMENTS

    Does the WTS feel that speaking the truth is good in all situations?

    The WTS has lied to its members; is it no surprise that those who find out no longer trust the WTS?

    Does the WTS feel that its members are entitled to the truth?

    13. What is involved in putting away abusive

    speech?

    13 Jehovah teaches us to promote respect

    and unity in both the congregation and the

    family by setting firm limits on the way we

    speak. “Let a rotten saying not proceed out

    of your mouth . . . Let all malicious bitterness

    and anger and wrath and screaming

    and abusive speech be taken away from you

    along with all badness.” (Eph. 4:29, 31) One

    way to avoid offensive speech is to cultivate

    a more respectful attitude toward others. For

    example, a man who speaks abusively to his

    wife should strive to change his attitude toward

    her, especially as he learns how Jehovah

    honors women. God even anoints some

    women with holy spirit, giving them the

    prospect of ruling as kings with Christ. (Gal.

    3:28; 1 Pet. 3:7) Similarly, a woman who habitually

    screams at her husband should be moved to

    change as she learns how Jesus restrained

    himself when provoked.—1 Pet. 2:

    21-23.

    COMMENTS

    Does the WTS show they value their members by showing respect to them?

    Has an elder ever screamed at you? In the last 40 years that has happened to me without cause and with no apology from that person…instead another elder comes and apologizes.

    Why do jw husbands speak abusively; because women are not valued in the WTS, but are considered secondary, weak.

    While women may be anointed to rule in heaven; while on earth they have no more value than a non-anointed woman, and less value than a non-anointed male jw.

    As to wives screaming, I can remember 3 sisters being told that this caused their jw husband to hit them…it was their fault.

    14. Why is expressing anger dangerous?

    14 Closely related to abusive speech is failure

    to control anger. This too can separate

    people who belong to one another. Anger is

    like a fire. It can easily get out of control

    and cause disaster. (Prov. 29:22) One

    who is justified in expressing his displeasure

    must carefully control his anger to avoid

    damaging valuable relationships. Christians

    should work at being forgiving, not holding

    a grudge and not talking about the matter

    again. (Ps. 37:8; 103:8, 9; Prov. 17:9) Paul advised

    the Ephesians: “Be wrathful, and yet

    do not sin; let the sun not set with you in a

    provoked state, neither allow place for the

    Devil.” (Eph. 4:26, 27) Failure to control one’s anger

    would give the Devil an opportunity

    to sow disunity and even conflict in

    the congregation.

    COMMENTS

    Control anger…I can remember an elder racing up to me to tell me to stop telling the brother at the sound desk how to do his job; actually I was asking him if he was stuck again doing it because the brother assigned had not shown up; or if he would be sitting with me; if not, I would get his books….did this elder say “I’m sorry”? Not a chance.

    Holding a grudge…talking about a matter again…how long does it take elders to let go of the so-called sins of the rank and file?

    15. Taking what does not belong to us can have

    what effect?

    15 Showing respect for the property of

    others contributes to the unity of the congregation.

    We read: “Let the stealer steal no

    more.” (Eph. 4:28) A general sense of trust

    has developed among Jehovah’s people. If a

    Christian were to abuse that trust by taking

    what is not his, he would damage that happy

    unity.

    COMMENTS

    Showing respect for the property of others…it was next to impossible to get anyone to volunteer to have the book study in their home because….

    One child went to the bathroom (a one hour meeting and they couldn’t hold it) turned on the faucet and left it on creating a cascading waterfall down the basement steps

    One child splashed water all over including the ceiling, tossing wet toilet paper making it stick.

    One child stole items from the bedrooms of the homeowners to the point the put locks on the door

    One child stole food from the refrigerator

    One sister stole medication from the medicine cabinet

    One family let their children eat in someone’s car although asked not to do so…it ruined the seats which had to be replaced

    One child left in the car out in service destroyed the locking mechanism on the door

    One child jammed the cigarette lighter in so the dash caught on fire

    (none of the parents paid for the child’s actions)

    Love for God Unites Us

    16. How can we use upbuilding speech to strengthen

    our unity?

    16 The unity of the Christian congregation

    is the result of all being moved by love for

    God to treat others with love. Appreciation

    for Jehovah’s kindness motivates us to

    make an earnest effort to apply the counsel:

    “[Speak] whatever saying is good for building

    up as the need may be, that it may impart

    what is favorable to the hearers. . . .

    Become kind to one another, tenderly compassionate,

    freely forgiving one another just

    as God also by Christ freely forgave you.”

    (Eph. 4:29, 32) Jehovah kindly forgives imperfect

    people like us. Should we not likewise

    forgive others when we see their imperfections?

    COMMENTS

    The real problem is that vast majority of jws only give lip service to love.

    Is the WTS suggesting that jws forgive unrepentant people?

    *** w97 12/1 pp. 19-20 par. 15 ‘Continue Forgiving One Another Freely’ ***

    The Scriptures clearly indicate that Jehovah does not forgive unrepentant, hardened sinners. (Hebrews 6:4-6; 10:26, 27) What about us? Insight on the Scriptures says: “Christians are not required to forgive those who practice malicious, willful sin with no repentance. Such become God’s enemies.” (Volume 1, page 862) No Christian who has been a victim of extremely unjust, detestable, or heinous treatment should feel forced to forgive, or pardon, a wrongdoer who is not repentant.—Psalm 139:21, 22.

    *** w91 4/15 p. 21 par. 6 Imitate God’s Mercy Today ***

    At the time of disfellowshipping someone for unrepentant sin, elders who represent the congregation explain to him that it is possible for him to repent and receive God’s forgiveness.

    17. Why should we earnestly endeavor to promote unity?

    17 The unity of God’s people glorifies Jehovah.

    His spirit moves us in different ways to

    promote unity. We surely would not want

    to resist the spirit’s leading. Paul wrote: “Do

    not be grieving God’s holy spirit.” (Eph. 4:

    30) Unity is a treasure worth protecting. It

    brings joy to all those who share in it and

    glory to Jehovah. “Therefore, become imitators

    of God, as beloved children, and go on

    walking in love.”—Eph. 5:1, 2.

    COMMENTS

    Are jws unified? Behind their closed doors what do they do or say?

    Are they saying “Jehovah has left the land, he is not seeing”?

    (Ezekiel 9:9-10) 9 So he said to me: “The error of the house of Israel and Judah is very, very great, and the land is filled with bloodshed and the city is full of crookedness; for they have said, ‘Jehovah has left the land, and Jehovah is not seeing.’ 10 And as for me also, my eye will not feel sorry, neither shall I show compassion. Their way I shall certainly bring upon their own head.”

    How Would You Answer?

    · ? What attitudes promote unity among Christians?

    · ? How can our conduct promote unity in the congregation?

    · ? How can our speech help us in cooperating with others?

    CONCLUDING COMMENTS

    Next week, “Your Leader is One, the Christ.”

    The WTS taught that THE CHRIST consisted of Jesus and the 144,000, with Jesus the head and the 144,000 the body.

    Love, Blondie

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    OOOO, Goody!!!

    Thanks, Blondie!!! I missed your analyses!!!

    Zid

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    Hmmm...

    After reading this through, I realized that I've heard it before... Same basic themes and ideas... And I left in 1983 or thereabouts...

    They're recycling material, again...

    But then, I began to "read between the lines"...

    The title and over-all theme - "Christian Unity" - indicates that many in the Watchtower Society AREN'T so "united"... Like those nasty apostate "faders", who doubt and undermine others' faith, but don't give the elders any valid cause to disfellowship them... How INCONSIDERATE of them!!!

    Also, like those nasty people at Bethel headquarters who leaked the "Elders" book... Talk about a LACK of unity!!!

    One can see that fear of apostates popping up in the text, as in this section...

    "From among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves." (Acts 20:30) Also, some brothers had not completely left behind the divisive spirit that, Paul warned, "operates in the sons of disobedience."

    The text stating that " some Christian brothers evidently were wealthy slave owners, while others were slaves and probably very poor"... could indicate that the Watchtower Society is beginning to feel the effects of disgruntled congregations who resent the Watchtower Society's ownership of cKingdom Halls that the congregations have paid for... Or that the divisions caused by "moneyed" JWs versus poor JWs has torn some congregations apart...

    Then they re-emphasize the isolation of the typical JW...

    Even if someone in the congregation upsets us, where else can we turn? Nowhere else can we hear the sayings of everlasting life.-John 6:68.

    They emphasize the acceptability of spiritual "slavery"...

    Paul used a common practice among soldiers of ancient times to illustrate how Jesus has provided "gifts in men" to help unify the congregation. A victorious soldier might bring a foreign captive home as a slave to provide his wife help with chores.

    Yeeesh... That sets my teeth on edge...

    Zid

  • watson
    watson

    Thank GOD for the Governing Body and their healthful instructions. This is absolutely amazing. So happy I wasn't there to shit through it.

  • Snoozy
    Snoozy

    "Beware of the voice of strangers" I am sure this is the ex JW's they are talking about..

    No wonder they are all paranoid!

    Glad I don't have to be subject to that rot anymore...

    Snoozy

  • Darth plaugeis
    Darth plaugeis

    Blondie thank you for your comments.....

    I NEVER read the ........ anymore but thanks 4 your insite all the time. I always enjoy them.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Of course, if everything you do is what the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger tells you to, and everything anyone else does is also what the same Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger tells them to, there is going to be the illusion of unity. However, you still have the divisive effects of different hounders and hounder-hounders having different interpretations, usually including extra rules for self-righteousness. This has a much worse divisive effect than fornication ever could--plus, it is generally enforced. You break one of these special rules, they can disfellowship you for "brazen conduct". Yet, others in a contiguous (or even the same) congregation can do the exact same "offense" without anyone batting an eyelash.

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    This reminds me of my old employers who would only want "unity" and "positive thinking", meaning that they could not handle constructive comment and only wanted "Yes men"...We all knew what they meant and the wiser ones just shut up and got on with it....

    It is true that J W's have no sub divisions. There are no "liberal" or "free thinking" congregations, but that is because any different thinking is promptly expelled...

    As for this article, it has some strange comments, the examples of getting along are pretty trivial and skirt any real issues

    Par 7 "If someone in the congregation upsets us where else can we turn?"

    To another nearby congregation usually! There is a lot of that around here

    I don't think this article will be remembered as a classic..At least I can speak my mind here. The others at The Hall have to repeat the comments, out of "unity"

  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad

    (paragragh 5)....... 1/3 of the angels went bad (I missed that). That is a huge number. I googled Rev 12:4 and some commentators say that the number of bad angels could have been as much as 50,000,000 (speculation). No matter, 1/3 of any number is still significant. The math renders paragraph 5 mute!

    Good work Blondie on the rest of the article also.

    Before sending their watchtower study articles to print, the WTS writing department should sub-contract the articles out to you for final editing. They aren't doing a good enough job in-house.

  • St George of England
    St George of England

    God even anoints some women with holy spirit, giving them the prospect of ruling as kings with Christ.

    Does the WTS's attitude to women get more condescending than this? EVEN SOME WOMEN!!!!

    George

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